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I have a big screen TV that's about 15 feet away from the couch, even with the extensions it's a pain. Wireless is the way to go.

The only things I dont like about the Wavebird is that it has no rumble and it occasionaly loses the signal. Fix those two problems and i'm happy.

Next gen controlers are gonna be 50 bucks each I bet.

If you're losing the signal from 15 feet away you probably just need fresher batteries. The thing should be able to go a lot farther than that.

Secondly, I don't miss rumble one bit. It's distracting. It's supposedly there to make you feel like you're "in the game", but it's really just annoying, and the response you get doesn't change with the situation or event. Kimahri gets hurt in FFX and I get the response of a vibrating controller. CJ gets shot in GTA: SA and I get the response of a vibrating controller. All the indication I need is on the TV screen, I don't need to be reminded in my hands of what is happening in the game. No rumble for me, thank you very much.

The WaveBird is a godsend. Not having to deal with cords is a joy. Sometime if I play on a couch or in bed I've got a blanket over me. The ability to use the controller under the blanket is, to me, very nice.

I honestly can't see a downside to wireless controllers. I only have to change the batteries every 2-3 months, and I've never once lost my controller. I don't know about anyone else, but when I'm done playing, the controller sits atop the GameCube itself so it's always there when I want to play. What do you do, throw it on the floor when you're finished?

Well, when I play at home I'm always no more than... 2 meters from the screen at an absolute maximum. Usually I lean forward for a more cmfortable position, and to promote better awareness (I find my reactions are slower when I'm leaning back). Length is certainly not a problem there.

When I play at my girlfriends house (about <1% of my playtime) on her projection unit, the console is generally sitting in the middle of the floor, so again length of the cord is no problem.

Obviously some people prefer wireless. It'd be nice to have an option between the two, as opposed to forcing everyone into wireless. Particularly if the problems Lazy mentioned above aren't fixed.

I fucking hate wires. My place is filled with wires. Just wait until you guys get a small apartment and have to put all of your crap (tv, computer, consoles, etc.) in the same room. Yeah, let's see how much you like wires then!

You're not the only person who lives out of home. If only you could see a photo of my room right now.

There's wires fucking EVERYWHERE.

But to make matters worse, there's just shit in general EVERYWHERE.

So having a controller which is not attached to a permanent fixture is very dangerous.

Wireless controllers are awesome and I will fight anyone who says otherwise...IN A BATTLE ARENA!! *cue Star Trek battle arena music*

The Wavebird for the GC is an amazing controller, it's so much better than the regular controller. Wires are simply a nuisance, controllers without wires are not. And for everyone who's whining [ABF] about how you have to recharge it like EVERYDAY. Well, guess what? You don't! It lasts for a very long time, not quite sure how much exactly, but it's probably more than 30 hours. And if it does start running low while you're playing a game simply save the game AND THEN FOR LOVE OF GOD DO SOMETHING OUTSIDE FOR ONCE. Battery life is seriously not a problem at all with the Wavebird, and it likely will not be with next-gen controllers unless they try to throw in a bunch of useless stuff [i.e. rumble]. I haven't missed the rumble feature at all.

Quote:It'd be a pain to have to remember to plug them in regularly overnight.

The only way you'd have to charge the batteries for a Wavebird [or other wireless controller I'm assuming] is if you used every hour of the day. The batteries last a long time in the Wavebird.

Quote:The original X-Box controller isn't bad.

Yes, it is.

Quote:The only advantage of a wireless controller is being able to get farther away from the system.

And it's a lot more comfortable, not to mention convenient. I don't have to worry about someone stepping on the cord and dumping the console in the floor, or the cord getting caught in draws or being chewed on by dogs, and there's no cord that's draped across the room. And all you have to do to take the controller someplace else is simply pick it up and carry it, there's no rolling of cords and you don't even have to unplug. Simple, easy, and better.

Quote:but nice if you can get it.

A rumble feature in a controller used to really cool when it was new, but that was like 9 years ago and that simply isn't something that's really that great anymore. Draws you into the game more? Maybe if it burned you and whipped with wires.

Wireless controller > Wireful controllers

I live in a dorm, OB1. A single, this year. I've got a computer, television, game consoles, etc. in a pretty small room... the wires aren't the problem. Finding a physical place to put the console (and to sit) is the problem. As for at home, I wouldn't want to sit more than maybe 8 to 10 feet from the TV... seems like that'd get kind of small. And that's quite within even the Gamecube's cable length.

Quote:The Wavebird for the GC is an amazing controller, it's so much better than the regular controller. Wires are simply a nuisance, controllers without wires are not. And for everyone who's whining [ABF] about how you have to recharge it like EVERYDAY. Well, guess what? You don't! It lasts for a very long time, not quite sure how much exactly, but it's probably more than 30 hours. And if it does start running low while you're playing a game simply save the game AND THEN FOR LOVE OF GOD DO SOMETHING OUTSIDE FOR ONCE. Battery life is seriously not a problem at all with the Wavebird, and it likely will not be with next-gen controllers unless they try to throw in a bunch of useless stuff [i.e. rumble]. I haven't missed the rumble feature at all.

Ones with AA I definitely would not want. Yes, GBs require batteries, and so did Rumble Packs, but for those you don't have a choice... okay, for GB you could use a AC adaptor. I used to have one, actually (for the original GB)... but GB is meant to be portable, so that doesn't always work. Consoles -- or computers -- are in static locations, so the advantages are a lot smaller... (as for rumble packs, you had no choice. And if the batteries died it didn't make the console stop working. And I have missed rumble since my rumble pack broke several years back.) Rechargable? slightly better, but that requires recharging... at least with a Wavebird you can just pause and keep playing after you put new batteries in.

Quote:Yes, it is.

Matter of opinion.

Quote:And it's a lot more comfortable, not to mention convenient. I don't have to worry about someone stepping on the cord and dumping the console in the floor, or the cord getting caught in draws or being chewed on by dogs, and there's no cord that's draped across the room. And all you have to do to take the controller someplace else is simply pick it up and carry it, there's no rolling of cords and you don't even have to unplug. Simple, easy, and better.

I keep my consoles on the floor, so it just pulls out the controller... and that doesn't happen very often with the TV where it is at home (school? The only issue is how easy it is to knock out the GC controller plug... the N64 was so much better... it actually STAYED when you give a little tug on the cord...)

Quote:A rumble feature in a controller used to really cool when it was new, but that was like 9 years ago and that simply isn't something that's really that great anymore. Draws you into the game more? Maybe if it burned you and whipped with wires.

If you feel that way, you should change your username. :)

It is true that sometimes rumble is more of a hassle than a help (like those stupid side rumble strips in XG3), but overall it's good and helps with the games and immersion.

For someone who gets all of his batteries from mommy and daddy, you sure do whine a lot about having to change them.

Quote:As for at home, I wouldn't want to sit more than maybe 8 to 10 feet from the TV... seems like that'd get kind of small. And that's quite within even the Gamecube's cable length.

I sit about 3 feet from my tv, but I'd still rather have a wireless controller.

Quote:If you feel that way, you should change your username.

No.

Besides, I didn't say that I hated the rumble feature, it's just something that I don't really care that much about anymore, especially after I got a wireless controller.

Quote:Ones with AA I definitely would not want. Rechargable? slightly better, but that requires recharging... at least with a Wavebird you can just pause and keep playing after you put new batteries in.[quote]

As I said, the batteries last for a long. It's not like have to change them every 3 or 4 hours of play or something crazy like that.

[quote]The only issue is how easy it is to knock out the GC controller plug... the N64 was so much better... it actually STAYED when you give a little tug on the cord.

With a wireless controller that would never happen.

Quote:For someone who gets all of his batteries from mommy and daddy, you sure do whine a lot about having to change them.

It's not the biggest issue ever, but why have to deal with it at all when there's a just as good alternative out there?

Quote:I sit about 3 feet from my tv, but I'd still rather have a wireless controller.

That doesn't make sense.

Quote:With a wireless controller that would never happen.

Oh well. Doesn't happen very often... it's just a bit annoying when the GC is compared to the N64. N64 controllers also have slightly longer cords...

A Black Falcon Wrote:It's not the biggest issue ever, but why have to deal with it at all when there's a just as good alternative out there?

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But it's <i>not</i> just as good.

You're right, it's not. It's better. :)

Good comeback, ABF. ;)

Caramel corn for president!

(Yay, I have a new Homsar quote for use in a thread that I keep viewing but never reply to.)

I love my Wavebird controller. It's just so cool.

Now, wireless is great and all, and yes a wireless controller that always works perfectly is superior to any wired controller.

I just wanted to make it clear that the feature just means nothing to me, that's all. I just have no need for it. All my hardware is in one room already, cable modem, computer, EVERY SINGLE CONSOLE I OWN, and it's all currently hooked up at that. However, the only wires you'll see are the JUNGLE YOU WILL GET LOST IN behind my PC and TV. Recently, I've come across some nice little things that bundle up the cords so you no longer have to worry about all that extra length, and I tend to hook up all my stuff from the start so it's not tangled up. What I'm saying is, I don't have a huge cord problem.

Ah yes, the rumble pack needed batteries... That SUCKED! I've mentioned it before and all though :D.

GR, the only thing is, they could have designed the wave bird with a rumble switch built in to disable and enable it. There, you have your favored mode, and others who prefer all the features they can get from a game, no matter the triviality, can get it. Besides, when I'm playing OOT and MM, I like using the stone of agony.

If they pack in wireless controllers from the start next generation, I will have no complaints at all, given two caveats. One, they better have rechargeble batteries. Two, it better have a perfect signal that can only be interrupted by a nuclear blast nearby. I'm not going to be beaten in a time trial all boss melee because the controller messed up one time and I fell in a bottomless pit because of it. One other thing. If it's rechargeble, they should harken back to the old famicom. I mean, it would be nice if they set up a recharge station so you can just put the controller in it's slot like you would a portable phone.

A wireless controller with a rechargeable battery is a great idea and I'm sure that's the next step companies will be taking. Also, having a recharge station would be good too, though it wouldn't be a whole lot easier than just having an AC adapter that plugs into the controller like the DS and SP do.

As far as having a rumble feature on a wireless controller, I don't know if they would do that even if it could be disabled. You know how big the Wavebird is without spinning pieces of metal in it.

You pro-wires people are so weird.

Don't group me with them. I'm not "pro wires", I'm "pro not spending money where I see no benefit at all".

You would not be paying extra for a standard controller. The Revolution will probably only have wireless controllers (aside from backward compatibility), which ABF is crying about.

Uh... it costs more to make a wireless controller than a wired one. So yes, you will be spending more money to get wireless controllers, even if they don't give a wired option -- in that case, had they given one, it'd have to have been cheaper.

It's going to come bundled with the system, genius. And controllers are always going to become more expensive to make, so you're just going to have to find a nice big pillow to cry into a deal with it.

Quote:NEW YORK -- The revolution will be televised. Xbox 2 -- aka Codename Xenon, the next-generation gaming console from Microsoft -- will make its first appearance on a yet-untitled half-hour special that will be broadcast globally across all MTV stations.

The move bucks industry protocol to make major debuts at E3 in Los Angeles-the largest trade show in the gaming industry. "It doesn't make sense to unveil the product behind a closed door, at a trade-only event. We wanted to talk directly to the consumer first," said Peter Moore, corporate vp-worldwide marketing and publishing for Microsoft Xbox.

Source: Click for full story

It's airing May 12th. And it's being hosted by Elijah Wood.

Oh God.

That's the lamest thing I've ever heard.

But I'd still watch it if I could. :P

Oh yeah!! MTV, Baby!!

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Actually, no.

Definitely stupid...

Well we know who their target audience is. I just hope that eventually the indifferent attitude of our generation will lead to the demise of "MTV gaming" as I like to put it.

I've never seen you call it that...

Yeah, neither have I...like EVER.

Nobody ever went broke by catering to the lowest common denominator.

So no this isn't stupid it's smart. Very, very smart.

Quote:With all the “first images” that have popped up for next-gen consoles, this one is certainly the most official. It comes from the ourcolony.net site, which is clearly a front for MS’ marketing machine. But the interesting part isn’t the image (which shows off so little that it’s hard to get too excited). Rather, check out the image’s binary code on the ourcolony.net page. Thanks to teamxbox, we get a look behind the curtain:

“C.a.r.R.e.n.d.e.r.3.6.0._M.a.g.a.z.i.n.e._.C.o.v.e.r.”

This may be the first image to officially leak out. But we find it interesting that this is also the first mention of the “360” term from the powers-that-be at MS.

Source: Joystiq

Here's the image in question.

I don't think that's what he meant by calling it stupid.

And does anyone really care about these pictures being leaked? It's like they're trying to produce hype, but no-one cares.

Then again, I haven't exactly been visiting TXB lately..

Binary code? Those are CHARACTERS.

Quote:I've never seen you call it that...

Quote:Yeah, neither have I...like EVER.

Yeah, that's because I only call it that to myself.

Yeah... is anyone actually hyped for the X-Box 2? It seems so early for the next console generation...

The games should look awesome at E3.

I'm hyped for the Revolution...but not much else.

And Revolution won't be at E3.

Graphics are so good now, though, that it's just degrees up... oh, it's better, but it's not the same as some past generations, I think. Oh, and as usual, PC games have surpassed the consoles... I wonder how much better than the best looking current PC games this will be.

PCs are behind more than ever now. Stuff like Riddick and RE4 are comparable to the best-looking stuff on the PC, and this is three years into the generation. Back during the N64/PSX days PCs were way ahead much sooner.

The XB2 from XB1 graphical leap should be comparable to the N64-GC/PSX-PS2 leap. And the PS3 is supposedly much more powerful than the XB2...

So in technical terms there will of course be a great leap, and there's still tons of room for improvement. My only concern is gameplay. The XB2 controller is going to offer absolutely nothing new to gaming. There were control innovations with the NES, SNES, N64, PSX Dual Shock, and nothing major since. This will be the second gen in a row with the same control type. Unless... unless Nintendo comes to save the day. I really, really hope that the Revolution offers new type of controls, new gameplay possibilities. Nintendo better deliver!

Quote:PCs are behind more than ever now. Stuff like Riddick and RE4 are comparable to the best-looking stuff on the PC, and this is three years into the generation. Back during the N64/PSX days PCs were way ahead much sooner.

It is true that PCs aren't as far ahead as they were in the N64 days, but they have been ahead for the last year, anyway. Why aren't they as far ahead as before? Well, on the same line, why doesn't the X-Box 2 look to be as huge a leap graphically as the Xbox1 was from the PSX or N64? The graphics curve is slowing down a bit, at least on the 'perceptible differences' front... but even so, PCs do have better graphics, when companies actually try to use that power.

Just as big as PSX-PS2/N64-GC? I don't know... maybe by the raw numbers, but by the "look"? We haven't seen much of the next generation's graphics, but to me it definitely doesn't seem as huge a jump as N64 to GC.

Poppycock. Look at those Unreal 3 technology pics. Many devs are using that engine for XB2 games, and it looks massively superior to any current-gen game.

The best-looking game on the PC right now is HL2, and RE4 is comparable to it. Doom 3 on the XB looks almost as good as the PC version. Riddick, however, looks better than Doom 3 on the PC. It's pretty much even right now.

Just look at Conker.

Meh, I wouldn't really agree with RE4 being comparable to HL2. It's definately behind it, just not that far.

The problem, in my opinion, with the majority (read: not all) of PC games is that they look technically superior, but far less pleasing to the eye. For all the high-end advanced techniques employed by the latest games, there's nothing that can compare to decent art direction. Which the best looking games on every platform have in spades. Examples, MGS3 on PS2. RE4 on GC. HL2 on PC. I think all of these games are extremely beautiful.

PCs have one massive inherent advantage: Resolution. Unless you've got an HDTV -- and that's not all that many people -- you're using your old, fuzzy, low-res TV. Compare that to a computer monitor and there's absolutely no comparison.

As for art direction, lots of PC games have great art... you just must not play them.

Lots of console videogames have great art, but anyway. The resolution advantage for the PC is one that's ending very quickly, HDTVs are becoming more and more common. Besides, you could even use a regular TV with an s-video connection and it looks pretty decent for a TV.

S-Video does nothing to change resolution or the physical screen quality... sure, it makes it look nicer, but it's still a television screen.

Well, HDTVs are becoming a lot more common.

They still cost a lot though... given that, I have to be doubtful about how many people actually have them.

S-Video is zero signal loss, it's the best possible picture you can have on a standard TV. Coaxial and A/V 'banana plugs' still lose signal. So, in essense, the s-video gives you the best possble 'resolution'.