27th December 2011, 10:43 PM
(This post was last modified: 27th December 2011, 10:57 PM by Dark Jaguar.)
You mean Four Swords Adventure? Well, he did nearly destroy the entire kingdom in Twilight Princess before the events of Four Sword Adventure. He'd have infamy from that I would imagine.
However, in Four Swords Adventure he isn't resurrected so much as reincarnated, so fame doesn't really factor into it. In fact no one really knows who he is until he takes the Trident of Destruction. It's notable that he's not focusing on the Triforce in that game though, and that the Four Sword comes back into focus.
Honestly the "mists of time" thing is how I saw it too, and yeah it is a little odd to think of Link losing leading to the first game in the series. It's actually a very dark timeline in that way. If my interpretation of when the "he lost" took place is right (the split happens at the very moment Link touches the Master Sword for the first time as a child), that means that there's a timeline where the Deku Tree, Zelda, Kaopora Gaobora, and countless others put all their faith into the child of legend, everything in place for the moment that kid will become the hero, and that child of legend promptly vanishes without a trace instead of saving the world in any way. That's frickin' DARK. In fact, if they make a Zelda MMO, THAT is the period of time when it would take place.
However, it does help solidify the Oracle games in their spot in the timeline. If Hero of Time Link failed, then the Twinrova sisters were never killed, and so that leaves them free to work in the background for eons to resurrect Ganon (I'd imagine witches live for a long time, given the two witches' comments about their age in OOT).
Really the biggest problem I have working it out that way is that I always connected Ganon's comments at the very end of OOT (saying he'll get revenge on Link, Zelda, and the Sage's descendants) as specifically foreshadowing his later abduction of all the sage descendants in LTTP. Since that's the "adult" timeline, it no longer foreshadows LTTP's events at all, but rather Wind Waker's events (which simply isn't as good a fit, since there are fewer descendants for him to get revenge on in that game). The only way it still "works" is if we imagine he said that when he was finally imprisoned in the imprisoning war timeline as well.
It fits perfectly in the timeline, just not from my perspective on how good the foreshadowing and "self referencing the previous game" of that line of dialog was.
However, in Four Swords Adventure he isn't resurrected so much as reincarnated, so fame doesn't really factor into it. In fact no one really knows who he is until he takes the Trident of Destruction. It's notable that he's not focusing on the Triforce in that game though, and that the Four Sword comes back into focus.
Honestly the "mists of time" thing is how I saw it too, and yeah it is a little odd to think of Link losing leading to the first game in the series. It's actually a very dark timeline in that way. If my interpretation of when the "he lost" took place is right (the split happens at the very moment Link touches the Master Sword for the first time as a child), that means that there's a timeline where the Deku Tree, Zelda, Kaopora Gaobora, and countless others put all their faith into the child of legend, everything in place for the moment that kid will become the hero, and that child of legend promptly vanishes without a trace instead of saving the world in any way. That's frickin' DARK. In fact, if they make a Zelda MMO, THAT is the period of time when it would take place.
However, it does help solidify the Oracle games in their spot in the timeline. If Hero of Time Link failed, then the Twinrova sisters were never killed, and so that leaves them free to work in the background for eons to resurrect Ganon (I'd imagine witches live for a long time, given the two witches' comments about their age in OOT).
Really the biggest problem I have working it out that way is that I always connected Ganon's comments at the very end of OOT (saying he'll get revenge on Link, Zelda, and the Sage's descendants) as specifically foreshadowing his later abduction of all the sage descendants in LTTP. Since that's the "adult" timeline, it no longer foreshadows LTTP's events at all, but rather Wind Waker's events (which simply isn't as good a fit, since there are fewer descendants for him to get revenge on in that game). The only way it still "works" is if we imagine he said that when he was finally imprisoned in the imprisoning war timeline as well.
It fits perfectly in the timeline, just not from my perspective on how good the foreshadowing and "self referencing the previous game" of that line of dialog was.
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