11th March 2004, 11:46 AM
Quote:After spending like 10 minuites constantly getting sent back to the start and just finding one chest with money it was too annoying and I quit. Easy it is not unless as I said you are lucky or something...
Hahaha, there's an actual pattern that you have to follow. You have to pay attention to your surroundings. It's all about memory.
Quote:Getting rupees from grass takes a long time to make much because you get 1 at a time and most grass gives you none... unless you just farm some field that has lots of rupees that seems a bit cheap and would get very boring very fast.
Here's a hint, boy: Get the super twirly move, find a big field of grass, let loose and you're bound to find at least a few blue rupees. Then go into a room or something so that the grass grows back and repeat. In ten minutes you'll have hundreds of rupees. Another way to make a quick buck if to use one of those many games within the game world. And then there are several different quick rupee tricks that the developers like to put in the Zelda games. There's one with pots in WW.
Quote:By memonizing the whole game? Well might be possible.
Not might, is. There's video to prove it. Like that guy who beat Metroid Prime in under two hours.
Quote:Well some are only puzzles in a loose sense (ie "solve" something by killing baddies and you progress), but there are some puzzles... like the islands and the bird, or the switch to get in the basement, or the maze that is in said cellar under your house... okay it was a simple maze but it WAS a maze. Oh and 15 or so minuites for that 30-stage big dungeon is hardly slow. I kept going after that but had to give up at 40 because I'd used both of my faries and only had 2 1/2 hearts left... I wanted to finish but knew I wouldn't get anywhere close, not with that much health left.There are no puzzles that make you stop and think about them. At least not for me. The longest it takes to get a single triforce piece is that long tunnel which can be completed in under ten minutes.
Quote:And you've already proven your "half hour" false you know. Nice to see you can see reason... even when you can't admit it in as many words... I mean, you in other responses here insult me for saying that it's impossible to to in half an hour but here you say that that one takes 10 minuites (reasonable if you move fast) and those other 5 or 6 mini dungeons (there isn't one for a couple of them but the ghost ship has two if you include the maze) take 5 minuites (possible for some, not for others; for most it really depends on how fast you can fight, but for others... like the maze under the house if you memorize the quickest route it could be fast. Same for the pots -- if you've done it before you know the route and can do it quickly. But for both, and especially for that one, the first time through "5 minuites" is unlikely. Oh they aren't exactly epic dungeons, but it takes a bit more than that. I think you just forget how long it takes and just think' that didnt' take long'. Which it didn't, of course, but 5 minuites? I don't know. Only if you can dispatch those monsters quick and catch on on how to get through mazes in record time...
Under five minutes each, and that includes the mazes. It is most certainly possible to get all of them in roughly half an hour, and if you send me the money for the tape I'll prove it to you.
Quote:Laughable comment given that you just admitted that half an hour is not a possible number to even just beat the dungeons where you get the maps. That is of course not counting the sailing between said dungeons (and not all are on warps so you must spend some time sailing!) and then the sailing to the fishing spots to dig up some triforce pieces... face it, you're count is well off.
And I'm not bad at Zelda games. Including this one. You may be better than me but that does not mean I am bad. You're just basing your statements on your faulty memory and your standard need to use insults when reasoned arguements can't be thought of fast enough.
You are extremely bad at WW if it takes you "hours" to get the remaining triforce pieces. I beat it all in about half an hour, and can do it again. It is very sad to see someone like you ABF, someone who is so incredibly bad at a game that they find it unbelievable that someone could be that much better than them. Like I said, give me the money for a tape and shipping and I will record myself getting all of the final triforce pieces in half an hour. I've done it several times already, and I will gladly do it again. Let me prove just how much of an idiot you are. After you watch the tape you have to promise that you'll go on Tendo City and announce the following: "I, ABF, have seen OB1 get the final triforce pieces in the time he said he could. I am a stupid idiot who annoyed the hell out of him and I apologize for that, and now that he's proven me wrong I'd like to make it clear that I am a complete moron. And that I'm always wrong."
BTW I wrote down how long it took me to get the final triforce pieces right after I beat the game, in a discussion I had with... Darunia, I think it was. It was a little over half an hour. So there's no "faulty memory" here.
Quote:I don't recall any hints, obvious or not. Just an island where you can use the grappling hook to get on the roof of the cave. No "hints".
They give you hints as soon as you get that food. You're just dense.
Quote:I'm really not sure how doing some mundane task to gain what you need is cheap in any way, boring as it may get (like the pot trick in LTTP). However, I suppose when you are used to PC style RPGs where there is no infinite well of XP OR money, one can see any sort of infinite source of pretty much anything done over and over as cheap.
Exactly! I have no idea how that weirdo can call it "cheating".
Quote:You must be missing one of your thumbs. That wasn't hard at all. It forced me to use one fairy, but I made it out with most of my health and two other fairies (plus the Grandma's Soup that I got at the beginning and never ended up using).
Thank you! Okay it's fine that ABF is no good at the game, but it's very annoying when he finds it impossible to believe when someone is better than he is.
Quote:Lemme just ask one thing. In every Zelda game before this (excepting MAYBE the oracle games, which I haven't yet mastered), you can always go back from the very end of the game and collect EVERY SINGLE item, chest, or anything else that's recorded by the save file in the whole game. The only exception to this rule is OOT with one of the max item holding upgrades for the deku sticks I think, if you collect the ocarina of time before you show the mask of truth to the mask judging plants, however that's an obvious glitch so it doesn't really count. So, is Wind Waker the same way, or are there some items and events you can't get to after certain points?
Hmm, I'm not sure. I know that there are some enemies that you can't capture with your camera after a certain point, but the whole world is open in your last save before Ganon.