The best non-Gamecube game...EVER!

[Geno]

Geno and EM say they got TWO controllers with their systems. That means their's are newer than mine, and likely the rest of our's.

Yup, as I said, I got mine for Christmas in 1998, two years after the N64 was first released. One of the controllers is the standard gray controller while the other one is one of those transparent purple controllers.

Meanwhile, I got my Gamecube in May of 2004, three years after it was released, and it only came with one controller. Probably because I bought the cheapest one available at Toys R Us, which surprisingly was a platinum cube/controller. I then went and bought a black controller to go with it.

[Great Rumbler]

I got my N64 for Christmas of 1996, and my Gamecube in November of 2001. You can't wait around to get this kind of stuff.

[Geno]

I wanted an N64 as soon as I saw the first commercial for it, but it took my parents two years to get it. I also asked for a Gamecube several times. My parents couldn't afford to get me a PS2 in 2000, so I had to wait a year (Christmas of 2001) before I could get it. They didn't get me a Gamecube in 2002 or 2003 like I had asked, so I went ahead and bought it myself in 2004, after saving up my money. (I had finally gotten a job in September of 2003.)

[Weltall]

I never, ever get consoles when they first release. The one exception to this was the GBA SP, though I got that from my sister, thanks to her 'losing' my original GBA and several games.

Usually, the machines don't have enough good games to justify an immediate purchase, and I'm cheap as it is, so I always wait until the price drops, unless there's a game that I want so badly that I cannot wait (Silent Hill 2 forced an early PS2 purchase, in Christmas of 01 when it was still $300). I got the GC a year late, Genesis four years late, SNES four years late, NES three years late, GameBoy six years late, Dreamcast a year after the fact, N64 five years late, and PSX two years late. In every instance I had to miss out for a little while, but they were cheaper and had a better selection of games all around, and in no instance do I ever regret waiting.

I might even get an XBox one day.

[A Black Falcon]

Geno and EM say they got TWO controllers with their systems. That means their's are newer than mine, and likely the rest of our's. Meaning... their controllers wouldn't be as broken down since they are younger.

I also got two controllers with my N64... my first one and my second one (the first one still worked, but I needed another one... the strange thing is that it was the SECOND one that broke. Huh. :)), which is why I have two Atomic Purple controllers. :)

They started putting two controllers in sometime in '98 or 99. I got mine September '99 and it was $100 for a N64 with two controllers (one clear purple, one grey) or $100 for a colored N64 (you know, the transparent green one, the yellow Pikachu one, etc) with one controller. It wasn't a hard decision. :)

And yet my controllers are pretty broken down... the two newer ones were nice for a while, but after about a year or so of using just them and not the old ones they got almost as bad as the originals... the originals are still a bit worse, but the "new" ones aren't in very good shape either, that's for sure.

I'd wanted an N64 (and before that a NES) for years, but my parents never got me one (just the GB and GBC), so I had to get it myself... and it wasn't until fall '99 that I had the money and finally got one. Other consoles... the GB I got years after its launch. GBC I did get at christmas '98, the year it launched... but I didn't get a GBA until summer '03. Gamecube of course I got right away, though I only had Rogue Leader for a month...

[EdenMaster]

Though I do think the dust may be from the stick, just not the main shaft...

Oh, please tell me you did no just use the term "main shaft" in lazy's presence...the sheer number of double-entendres that could be associated with that could send him into cardiac arrest.

SSB is fun for a few days, but after that only as a very occasional multiplayer game...

On that note, I played Rush 2049 today. For some people the N64 game they kept going back to was Goldeneye or Perfect Dark, or SSB, but for me it's Rush 2049...

Bah, then you mst suck at it :D. I've had my GameCube for 4 years, Melee was the first game I got for the system, and I STILL play it today. Probably explains why I won a local Melee tournament. Look over this simple formula and you'll understand

Me+Ganondorf=PWNAGE

But come on, Rush 2049? The game I went back to was SSB, Starfox64, or Mario Kart 64. Y'know. Good games.

[Geno]

The CPUs in SSB:M are dumb, which is why it's more fun if you play against another human. The same is true of SSB, but the CPU isn't quite as dumb. Though SSB:M has the advantage of all those trophies, giving it more replayability. Not to mention it has more than four hidden characters and more than one hidden world.

[Dark Jaguar]

Actually I find the AI in the original is stupider than in Melee. In general, they are just reacting to the instant based on certain variables. I mean, in both games, but in SSBM they had some cases to study to find out exactly how they should react so they react a little smarter. Generally, the only thing they have is the perfect reaction time (well, because every single frame the computer has to go through the AI routines before it can even go to the next frame, they are FORCED to have perfect reaction time). I'll say that works more to their advantage in SSBM due to the difficult to perfect power shielding in that game.

But yes, after finally figuring out exactly what possible reactions all the character AIs can respond with when maxed out, they can offer no real challenge. After that, it's time to move on to the one threat that can actually evolve with you, another human. Human vs human is the best you can get. Well, no that's a lie. The best the game offers is a full 4 player free for all, making an entire half of the gameplay into who you should be attacking at the moment.

[A Black Falcon]

SSB is just like Mario Party, Mario Kart 64, and Goldeneye. After you beat the main game (unlock the stuff, etc) there is almost no point in playing the game unless you have friends around to play it with. That is not true for me most of the time.

Rush 2049 isn't like that. I find it to be a really, really fun single player game... sure, you can't use battle mode, but race and stunt modes are so awesome that that really doesn't matter at all... I've put at least 100 hours into that game... (Perfect Dark would of course have more single-player replayablity than Goldeneye because of the simulants, by the way)

As for SSB and SSB:M, am I the greatest? No. But I really don't care. You won't improve fighting the CPUs, since they stink so badly, and the single-player game has little replayability (the main game, not the single battles), so all that's left is multiplayer... which I find to get boring after a few fights.

[Geno]

My brother and I play a few matches every few months, so it never gets old to us. Once we get tired of one session of matches, then we stop playing for a couple or three months.