The best non-Gamecube game...EVER!

[Great Rumbler]

I've still got to try to beat Xenogears. I've been playing it off and on since it came out but I'm only about 30 hours through it. One of these days, though...

[A Black Falcon]

OoT is definitely better than Mario 64. Oh, the two are probably the two best N64 games, but OoT is better. I got both of them when I got my N64 and while Mario 64 is a lot of fun, OoT is simply amazing...

Oh, and anyone who has an N64 and hasn't played Mario 64 on it should be punished severely. :)

[deanna]

EDIT: Nevermind, I forgot I have Mario 64 :D


I am an idiot, sorry...

[Great Rumbler]

Well thank goodness for that!

OoT is definitely better than Mario 64. Oh, the two are probably the two best N64 games, but OoT is better. I got both of them when I got my N64 and while Mario 64 is a lot of fun, OoT is simply amazing...

In terms of which one is ultimately the "better" game I'd probably agree with you about OoT, but in terms of which is my "favorite" I'd have to go with Mario 64. It's been a constant companion to many for many years and was one of the few games I remember from my dim past that I really played a lot, another game like that is Sonic 2. I played both of those games to death. They're still awesome games even today...

[deanna]

did you just agree that I am an idiot???

[Great Rumbler]

....


You: Nevermind, I forgot I have Mario 64

Me: Well thank goodness for that!

[Geno]

Last I checked my FFX, everyone (regular characters and Aeons) was at their Overdrive. If I ever happen to pick the game up again, I'll keep your strategy in mind.

[deanna]

....


You: Nevermind, I forgot I have Mario 64

Me: Well thank goodness for that!

:confused2 oh..

[A Black Falcon]

In terms of which one is ultimately the "better" game I'd probably agree with you about OoT, but in terms of which is my "favorite" I'd have to go with Mario 64. It's been a constant companion to many for many years and was one of the few games I remember from my dim past that I really played a lot, another game like that is Sonic 2. I played both of those games to death. They're still awesome games even today...

I didn't play either one over and over. Both I beat (in Mario 64 that means 'beating final Bowser'), and haven't played for large amounts of time since. I never beat OoT again (though I got halfway once), and never got all the stars in Mario 64. Great games both, but with other games to play I never went back to them for long... and in Mario 64's case the knowledge that a lot of those stars were really hard to get and I'd likely never get them all anyway also dissuaded me from trying very hard to get many past the minimum required. :)

[Geno]

I never found all the Gold Skulltulas or Heart Pieces in OoT, but I've played through it several times.

[Great Rumbler]

Great games both, but with other games to play I never went back to them for long...

Well, when I got my N64, which was the Christmas after it was released, Mario 64 was the only game for it that I had and I played it almost everyday. It wasn't until my birthday, which was in December of the next year, that I got another game for it. Two in fact, Star Fox and Shadows of Empire. I never got all the stars either, but that didn't stop me from playing it.

[A Black Falcon]

Wow... ONE game for almost a year? You must not have had any money, because that's kind of ridiculous...

[OB1]

I was the same. The only N64 games I owned before we moved to the U.S. in 1999 were SotE, Banjo-Kazooie, and Goldeneye. I beat BK like a billion times and played Shadows non-stop. After GE came out though... man... I played that more than any other game, ever. I borrowed and rented tons of N64 games though. Or played them for 5 kunas per half hour (less than a dollar) at this little gaming place in the town. I would take a bus there almost every day to play all sorts of N64 and PSX games. I'd go there with my buddies all of the time, especially since one of them lived right near it. Good times...

[Great Rumbler]

Well, considering that I was 10 at the time...

[A Black Falcon]

No allowance? Or you weren't able to get yourself to not spend it before buying other things? :)

I didn't get many games other than christmas and my birthday when I was younger either, true... it's tough when you don't have much money and don't go to gaming stores very often... but still, I managed to get more than two games a year for my gameboy... though that is helped by having cheap games. :) And if I didn't have a new GB game that was okay because we had a PC... and on PC you don't need to buy anything to get new games to play, between shareware, demos, and freeware... I know I played a lot more of those than games I actually owned, though of course as I got older I started getting more games on my own.

[Great Rumbler]

No allowance? Or you weren't able to get yourself to not spend it before buying other things?

I was 10, what did I know about videogames? I had toys cars and all kinds of useless junk, I didn't want to save up $60 for one thing! Besides it wasn't like there were very many good games for the N64 early on.

[Geno]

Sure beats breakin' up with me!

...

I've having a Homsar craze right now if you can't tell.

[A Black Falcon]

There was Mario 64! And ... uh ... yeah...

Wave Race?

[Great Rumbler]

Yes, I can.

[Weltall]

OOT was my first N64 game, and definitely the one I spent the most time on.

And of course, I won it as a ROTM gift :D

Mario 64 was really great though, even though I got it late and I don't have my N64 anymore to play it.

[A Black Falcon]

What happened to your N64?

[Great Rumbler]

My N64 still works well, but the analog sticks on the controllers are getting where they don't work very good anymore.

[Geno]

My rabbit chewed my N64's adapter to shit, but luckily, I had the little red, white, and yellow plugs in my closet so I have to use those instead now.

[Dark Jaguar]

Oh yeah GR, those N64 analog sticks just plain SUCK when it comes to lasting... at all. If I had Mario Party, I could blame that, but as I don't it's just that whatever stuff is designed to hold the stick in it's center position is not very durable. Average use is more than enough to wear it out over the course of a few years, which it has been. The Gamecube sticks seem much more durable. At least, as of yet the sticks are not any looser as far as I can tell. It's not like I was bashing the stick or anything either. My controllers never end up in the horrid condition the controllers on demo kiosks end up in.

To Geno: Rabbit problems? Well that sucks... Yes, how lucky the rabbit missed the power cord eh? :) The solution there is to keep the rabbit caged for the rest of it's life.

Anyway, I need to find some place that sells JUST the analog stick component so I can get a steady fix :D. At least, I need to find a NEW N64 controller.

[Geno]

As many times as I've played the fishing game in Ocarina of Time, you'd think my N64's analog stick would be worn to shit. Instead, it's my thumb that's worn to shit. You can still see, if you look real hard, the imprint of the N64's analog stick on my thumb. That fishing game hurts like hell.

[Great Rumbler]

I'm suprised I don't have the imprint of the analog stick imprinted on my palm from playing Mario Party so much.

[Dark Jaguar]

Honestly, the analog stick was a great innovation, but being the first, the most poorly designed. One, the stick is HARD PLASTIC. Rubber tipped analog sticks are a pure blessing! Second, the stick is eventually reduced to hell as a strange white powder starts showing up inside the llittle "well where the stick sits.

[Great Rumbler]

Ah yes, the mysterious white powder. :D

[deanna]

Are ya'll serious about the white powder thing??

[Great Rumbler]

Completely serious! White powerdery stuff would form inside the indentation used by the analog stick. I still don't know exactly what that stuff is...

[Geno]

Perhaps Nintendo is hiding their stash inside the N64 controllers. Or maybe it's anthrax. I don't know, I've never noticed any white powdery stuff near the control sticks.

Regarding Mario Party... I've heard stories about people's skin peeling off from playing that wind-up Shy Guy game in Mario Party. That game really knows how to hurt your thumb. Hell, it's even worse than the fishing game in Ocarina of Time.

[Great Rumbler]

Yeah, the Shy Guy game is murder on your palms. After a few sessions of that it feels like your hand is ON FIRE!!

[A Black Falcon]

I love my N64... but I know white powder syndrome very well. All four of my controllers are badly dissolved... one is almost unusable and the other three stink. :) White powder, gradually increasing dead zones, mushy controls, not smooth movement of the stick... they've got it all to varying degrees...

I would get a new one, but that'd cost money... which I could buy games with... and anyway, I'm used to my N64 analog sticks being badly degraded. It'd be weird to use one that wasn't, I think... :D

[Great Rumbler]

I only have one controller [out of about 6] that really works anymore. They served their purpose with honor...

[Dark Jaguar]

I still have the first N64 controller that came with the system, but I never use it. I might have been one to go 3rd party if it weren't for the fact the 3rd party N64 controllers were even WORSE.

One of these days though I may just buckle under and buy a new one from Nintendo's online store. They still sell brand new NES controllers there! (In fact, since I wanted the updated rounded comfy model I actually got one of those a few years back, and it sure is a nice thing to have.) I'm pretty sure they'll be selling N64 controllers for a good long while, so I can wait exactly that long.

[A Black Falcon]

Yeah... all four of my N64 controllers are first party, and with them in this shape... I'm scared to think how bad third party N64 controllers are...

[Dark Jaguar]

WEll actually I've used a few and ths sticks can often be sturdier honestly. IT's just the rest of the design...

[Geno]

I still have the same two controllers that my N64 came with when I got it for Christmas back in 1998 and they work just fine.

[A Black Falcon]

Then either you never use your N64 or you use it quite infrequently.

And I don't have Mario Party.

[Great Rumbler]

3rd party N64 controllers are junk. They're terribly designed and the Z-button invariably breaks all the time.

[A Black Falcon]

First-party where it's got to be replaced every few years for optimum playing or third-party where it's even worse? I'll take the first party, but it doesn't mean I have to be happy about the design flaw that is the N64 analog stick ball...

[EdenMaster]

I still have the same two controllers that my N64 came with when I got it for Christmas back in 1998 and they work just fine.

Same here, and I was a Smash Bros. junkie (Well, I still am, except now it's Melee). I played my N64 <u>a lot</u> when I had it (I blame SSB, Vigilante 8, and Starfox64 for turning me into the insatiable gamer you see before you. Look away, I'm hideous!) and my controllers never broke, they even survived to be passed down to the next generation, my nephew now enjoys N64 goodness on the very same controllers I got packaged with the system.

Third-party stuff...I don't trust. No matter what it is, I refuse to buy anything third-party if there is a first-party product available. My one condition is that I will only buy third-party stuff unless there is no first-party equivalent, and I realy want it. Unfortunately, the former rules out the great many things on the GameStop shelf, and the latter pretty much snuffs the rest out. I've had nothing but bad luck with anything third-party, so I'm willing to shell out the extra clams to get a controller/memory card/whatever that will last.

[lazyfatbum]

It's from the stick itself, it rubs against the plastic housing and scrapes the stick that eventually creates a build up.

Or it's from fairies.

The best looking game this generation easily goes to Resident Evil 4.

Honestly I cant think of any non-Gamecube games that are as dazzling as RE4. I really liked how far Square can push the PS2 with the recent FF games but they're boring as all hell. Halo and Halo 2 look the same, that said Halo is very clean with sharp textures but doesn't look amazing or anything. Silent Hill 4: The Room looks pretty since as with all horror genres the emphasis is put on art with a contrast to grotesque. The high production values, the well scripted scenarios and occasionally well scripted dialogue (Silent Hill beats RE in that area every time, but RE always has the upper hand with witty comments and one liners), puts it high on my list.

So I would say that Silent Hill 4, with its attention to detail and overall graphics and art is probably the best looking non-gamecube game. For sheer polygons and effects though, that probably goes to DooM 3, which could be included in the horror genre with its recent, more dramatized incarnation.

[A Black Falcon]

SSB is fun for a few days, but after that only as a very occasional multiplayer game...

On that note, I played Rush 2049 today. :) For some people the N64 game they kept going back to was Goldeneye or Perfect Dark, or SSB, but for me it's Rush 2049...

[Great Rumbler]

SSB is fun for a few days, but after that only as a very occasional multiplayer game...

On that note, I played Rush 2049 today. For some people the N64 game they kept going back to was Goldeneye or Perfect Dark, or SSB, but for me it's Rush 2049...

You're so weird, ABF.

[A Black Falcon]

Mr. Clone Man strikes again?

[Great Rumbler]

You would have done the same.

[Dark Jaguar]

Geno and EM say they got TWO controllers with their systems. That means their's are newer than mine, and likely the rest of our's. Meaning... their controllers wouldn't be as broken down since they are younger.

I checked out my controllers and the sticks seem to have little factory made bumps and grooves that haven't been rubbed away. Since they protrude out FROM the smooth surface I must assume they would be the first to go. As they haven't, I must assume the dust isn't from the main body of the stick itself.

[lazyfatbum]

well, poop my drawers.

[Dark Jaguar]

NO I WILL NOT!

You are free to yourself though, just don't get anywhere near me.

Though I do think the dust may be from the stick, just not the main shaft...