5th January 2018, 8:57 PM
I thought it was great, much better than The Force Awakens, and on par with Rogue One (which I also loved). I didn't mind that the bait-and-switch plot points only happened for tension. I don't think Kylo Ren was turning good, then evil again. I think he was always evil. Rey saw potential in him turning good, but she made a bad judgment. Kylo Ren may have also been fooling her to some extent. Or, since Snoke was linking the two, maybe he was misleading/manipulating her. I don't think Kylo Ren killed Snoke and his crew because he was having a lapse of "good", I think he was both raging out at Snoke for belittling him, and vying for his power. The scene of him and Rey battling wills for the light sabre was badass. I could have done without the cliched villain "JOIN ME, AND WE WILL RULE THE UNIVERSE TOGETHER" speech.
It was a little frustrating to have Finn and Paige's plan foiled so easily, but it was a good setup for DJ to betray them. They probably could have come up with a better way for it to happen than "some storm troopers wandered by and caught them lol". I was pleasantly surprised to see Laura Dern show up. The point of her posing as an inept/evil admiral was so her plan to secretly sneak people off in escape pods could come to fruition, without the plan leaking to the first order somehow. So, as annoying as it was to have the First Order find out anyway, at least her character/motivations were consistent.
The showdown on the planet was AMAZING, and imo made up for any possible flaws in the first two acts. I loved all the scenes with Luke Skywalker. I was delighted to see Yoda make an appearance, with Frank Oz returning to voice him. It was a perfect end to his character arc to commit himself to the force, much in the same way as Obi-Wan.
This is pretty frustrating. I guess I just came to accept it, after The Force Awakens. No reason to walk it back with the sequel. Maybe Luke had trouble fighting off Kylo because he's older and weaker, more of a teacher than a warrior. Rey, also being youthful and full of energy and strength, might be able to match Kylo for that reason.
This probably is an issue of Star Wars fanatics vs. regular movie-goers, like you said.
It was a little frustrating to have Finn and Paige's plan foiled so easily, but it was a good setup for DJ to betray them. They probably could have come up with a better way for it to happen than "some storm troopers wandered by and caught them lol". I was pleasantly surprised to see Laura Dern show up. The point of her posing as an inept/evil admiral was so her plan to secretly sneak people off in escape pods could come to fruition, without the plan leaking to the first order somehow. So, as annoying as it was to have the First Order find out anyway, at least her character/motivations were consistent.
The showdown on the planet was AMAZING, and imo made up for any possible flaws in the first two acts. I loved all the scenes with Luke Skywalker. I was delighted to see Yoda make an appearance, with Frank Oz returning to voice him. It was a perfect end to his character arc to commit himself to the force, much in the same way as Obi-Wan.
Quote:Rey is absurdly, unrealistically overpowered. I know she is a strong Jedi, and that's fine, but she beats Kylo Ren the first time she's ever held a lightsaber, in TFA, and then does even better this time, and still with barely any training? Kylo can fight off Luke, but untrained Rey? Forget it! On the one hand it's good to see a strong female character in Star Wars, but this goes way overboard into the impossible.
This is pretty frustrating. I guess I just came to accept it, after The Force Awakens. No reason to walk it back with the sequel. Maybe Luke had trouble fighting off Kylo because he's older and weaker, more of a teacher than a warrior. Rey, also being youthful and full of energy and strength, might be able to match Kylo for that reason.
This probably is an issue of Star Wars fanatics vs. regular movie-goers, like you said.