Quote:Why should she be punished by carrying a child
Why should the child be punished by death?
Quote:What's the most interesting, though, is how abortion opponents "justify" opposing life and health of the mother exemptions... they seem to believe that it's better for someone to die or be badly hurt (perhaps irreprably) than be saved, because the only way to save them is to give them an abortion.
Rephrase that. I don't understand what you're saying.
Quote:But it's not like most abortion opponents really care about that, it's only women dying after all and being anti-abortion is nothing if not extremely sexist (yes, some women are anti-abortion. But ever notice how the percentage is dramatically, dramatically lower than it is of men? It's harder for people directly affected by it to be anti-abortion... but it's not like a lot of men care).
Ok up until here this has been a civil argument but if you're going to start making disgusting, untruthful accusations at me I'm going to have to tell you to go fuck yourself.
Quote: Obviously religious reasons play a huge part, but even there I'd think there might be room for at least strong "life and health" exceptions in their horrible anti-abortion laws they keep trying to pass... but no, often not.
Horrible anti-abortion laws. Because any law that prevents women from putting fucking forceps in their vaginas and forcibly removing unborn fetuses is horrible. Who could fucking see anything objectionable to that? Who would ever find anything wrong with pulling a squirming bloody dying fetus from between a woman's legs? What's wrong that that? Only a fool would look at that and find objection to it!
Quote:And of course, that's not even addressing the fact that if abortion was banned all that happens is it moves to the back alleys again, where the deathrates go way, way up. Considering what I said above about abortion opponents and women, though, obviously they do not care one bit about that.
You're putting words in my mouth and I don't appreciate it. You aren't arguing with facts you're arguing with ignorance.
Quote:because abortion is never justified even if the mother's life is threatened
Open your fucking eyes. I've said that is the one instance where I would allow it.
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