30th January 2006, 12:41 PM
I agree but time and again (in the handheld market) anything that's not Nintendo has been destroyed, unable to find a niche like the GC did. The last time Nintendo had a real competitor in that market was the GameGear and now the PSP and I see the same outcome. Sega could not float the GG on first party titles alone and every third party wanted to be on the GB wagon.
I'm not saying it's impossible that the PSP isn't going to find a niche but looking at right now it seems more likely that Sony will reinvent their marketing to make the PSP the must-have executive toy (instead of the 'hip' teenage accesory). If they dont go that route, and the price doesn't come to a respectable 'below 200' mark, they're going to realize just like sega with the GG that trying to float it to keep its small market share would be time and money better spent on its home console devision (though Sega's a bad example here :D).
As far as those numbers you found all i can say is wow. They make no sense though and they're coming from corporate which as we know in any case is always inflated regardless. But to go from 15 million to almost 50 million in ONE YEAR? When the reports say that around 20 million were manufactured through that year (most delivered to its fiscal end)?? So the ipods are all sold out now? How does that make sense? And how does the same time frame equal two different numbers that are vastly different? are those sales worldwide and sales through the website itself? But it says that in other countries the Creative Labs MP3 players are more dominate in the market, so that means the 50 million users are all American? 50 million Americans have ipods?? the HELL?
I know a pretty good amount of people from all over the country either that I met on films or over the internet and I only know 2 of them to have an ipod, i simply cannot grasp how almost 50 million people have an ipod, that just doesn't make sense. Apple could not have manufactured AND SOLD that many ipods in the time span its been available and by the records you posted it says it grew it's production to nearly 3 times and was able to manufacture 20 million of them in one year (which I also dont buy, that's an insane amount, not even the Chinese motorcycle factories can pop that many out in a year and their houses are gargantuan) and it just seems like wishful thinking.
Now this would all make sense if Apple is saying that over the entire span of the ipod, they have manufactured 50 million units (it's coming up on 3 years now since it was released, that's 20M from this year alone based on their records and 30M from the other two years) for a world-wide market but has encountered problems with breaking in to other countries because of the dominance of other brands (flash) and that in the United States the ipod has a user base of around 20 to 25 (possibly more) million people which would make more sense but is still hard to swallow.
But I simply cannot believe those numbers at face value for a second, it sounds like magic math to me, like when people say the PSP has over 20 million users, etc.
Also, for the love of God dont do the 'I stopped reading your post' krap. All that's going to do is make conversation limited and frustrating as with the 'you're an idiot nintendo fan' etc etc, no one is name calling and bashing in this thread except for you so if you want more conversation and less BS calm the fuck down.
I'm not saying it's impossible that the PSP isn't going to find a niche but looking at right now it seems more likely that Sony will reinvent their marketing to make the PSP the must-have executive toy (instead of the 'hip' teenage accesory). If they dont go that route, and the price doesn't come to a respectable 'below 200' mark, they're going to realize just like sega with the GG that trying to float it to keep its small market share would be time and money better spent on its home console devision (though Sega's a bad example here :D).
As far as those numbers you found all i can say is wow. They make no sense though and they're coming from corporate which as we know in any case is always inflated regardless. But to go from 15 million to almost 50 million in ONE YEAR? When the reports say that around 20 million were manufactured through that year (most delivered to its fiscal end)?? So the ipods are all sold out now? How does that make sense? And how does the same time frame equal two different numbers that are vastly different? are those sales worldwide and sales through the website itself? But it says that in other countries the Creative Labs MP3 players are more dominate in the market, so that means the 50 million users are all American? 50 million Americans have ipods?? the HELL?
I know a pretty good amount of people from all over the country either that I met on films or over the internet and I only know 2 of them to have an ipod, i simply cannot grasp how almost 50 million people have an ipod, that just doesn't make sense. Apple could not have manufactured AND SOLD that many ipods in the time span its been available and by the records you posted it says it grew it's production to nearly 3 times and was able to manufacture 20 million of them in one year (which I also dont buy, that's an insane amount, not even the Chinese motorcycle factories can pop that many out in a year and their houses are gargantuan) and it just seems like wishful thinking.
Now this would all make sense if Apple is saying that over the entire span of the ipod, they have manufactured 50 million units (it's coming up on 3 years now since it was released, that's 20M from this year alone based on their records and 30M from the other two years) for a world-wide market but has encountered problems with breaking in to other countries because of the dominance of other brands (flash) and that in the United States the ipod has a user base of around 20 to 25 (possibly more) million people which would make more sense but is still hard to swallow.
But I simply cannot believe those numbers at face value for a second, it sounds like magic math to me, like when people say the PSP has over 20 million users, etc.
Also, for the love of God dont do the 'I stopped reading your post' krap. All that's going to do is make conversation limited and frustrating as with the 'you're an idiot nintendo fan' etc etc, no one is name calling and bashing in this thread except for you so if you want more conversation and less BS calm the fuck down.