30th January 2006, 1:04 AM
Paco/ Obviously MS's portable will do even better than the SP and DS combined and there's simply no evidence to suggest that a competitor in the handheld gaming market wouldn't do extremely well. The reality is that people want expensive all-in-one players and not cheaper systems designed just around gaming. The Rocker phone, the video ipods, etc are all doing extremely well for their market and Nintendo simply cannot compete with an mp3 player/video player that ALSO plays smaller cell-phone-like games.
See how much of an idiot a person could sound like spewing that rant off? You should also re-read my post to see that i was talking about the ipod video/mp3 players, these devices might be selling well around Christmas but have failed to grab any real market.
Then you say:
Which, if you would actually read my post instead of assuming, you would see that I said the same thing though far more cynical. However, if you look at the entertainment ladder, the video game industry makes more money than the film and music industries combined - porn being the top market.
Okay, using your logic, one could say that the Gamecube isn't doing "bad". And yet it is. I'm sure I could find some city or town somewhere on Earth that sells more GC's than other consoles but that obviously doesn't mean diddly squat. By 'better' I think you mean it will achieve a million seller or a must-have app. Looking at the sales of the J&D games on the PS2 I dont see that being a good horse to bet on when the PSP couldn't even sell over a million GTA VC's. As i've said before, the PSP needs to go the route of executive toy (like the original GB, GBC, GBP) by getting smaller simpler games on it. That puzzle game (I cant remember the name) remains the top seller on the system, that should be taken directly to heart for the corporation.
You wanna call me blind, nintendo fan, etc that's fine but it's not going to change the fact that the DS/PSP comparison at this time is like comparing the same ratio of GC base to PS2's. Ie: third parties pounce on the higher possible sales.
As far as the MS handheld, I agree that if MS went after the handheld gaming market they would fail at it but by offering something new (an MP3 player that lets you download cell-phone-like games) could not only invent a new market but ground itself as the leader of that market. But will it even begin to touch the level of Nintendo's handheld market? Not a chance on God's green Earth in terms of money or market share. I could however see a symbiotic relationship between the two (not litteraly) where most people who own either of the devices probably own both or, Nintendo releases a more intuitive MP3 peripheral to capitalize on the new market (the MP3-game) if Nini thinks the device is going to float. But it should be noted that in Japan people have been using their GBA SP as a camera/cellphone/mp3/video player for quite some time and most of those peripherals (mp3/cellphone/video) are already available for DS from multiple companies in Japan as well.
I just dont see MS making a mark with it unless they go for it right now. If they take their time in building up this avenue, not only will every corp under the sun jump on it but Nintendo will cover their ass as well by releasing an MP3 gadget with smaller, downloadable first party games. At which point MS would be exactly where they are right now - a bleak "handheld device" future in comparison to Nintendo.
See how much of an idiot a person could sound like spewing that rant off? You should also re-read my post to see that i was talking about the ipod video/mp3 players, these devices might be selling well around Christmas but have failed to grab any real market.
Then you say:
Quote:My stance is that Microsoft should break into the MP3 market first, get established, then offer a spin-off games device with Live Arcade type games in the following years. They would fail if they take on Nintendo directly, and they wouldn't enjoy all that much success if they took Sony's ideas with the PSP (jack of all trades, master of none) because Sony will already have established itself. It needs to excel in one area, and last I read the music business is far bigger than the video game business. If someone could merge the two in some fashion then they'd probably have a huge hit. I'm not saying it will be Microsoft but who knows.
Which, if you would actually read my post instead of assuming, you would see that I said the same thing though far more cynical. However, if you look at the entertainment ladder, the video game industry makes more money than the film and music industries combined - porn being the top market.
Quote:As far as Sony and the PSP. I don't think the PSP is doing "bad" in any sense of the word. I think it still continues to outsell the DS in N.A. and it's still doing well in Japan (not DS well, but well). The PSP isn't going anywhere and it's only going to get better. They finally have some potential hits on the horizon (Daxter being the most promising, imo).
Okay, using your logic, one could say that the Gamecube isn't doing "bad". And yet it is. I'm sure I could find some city or town somewhere on Earth that sells more GC's than other consoles but that obviously doesn't mean diddly squat. By 'better' I think you mean it will achieve a million seller or a must-have app. Looking at the sales of the J&D games on the PS2 I dont see that being a good horse to bet on when the PSP couldn't even sell over a million GTA VC's. As i've said before, the PSP needs to go the route of executive toy (like the original GB, GBC, GBP) by getting smaller simpler games on it. That puzzle game (I cant remember the name) remains the top seller on the system, that should be taken directly to heart for the corporation.
You wanna call me blind, nintendo fan, etc that's fine but it's not going to change the fact that the DS/PSP comparison at this time is like comparing the same ratio of GC base to PS2's. Ie: third parties pounce on the higher possible sales.
As far as the MS handheld, I agree that if MS went after the handheld gaming market they would fail at it but by offering something new (an MP3 player that lets you download cell-phone-like games) could not only invent a new market but ground itself as the leader of that market. But will it even begin to touch the level of Nintendo's handheld market? Not a chance on God's green Earth in terms of money or market share. I could however see a symbiotic relationship between the two (not litteraly) where most people who own either of the devices probably own both or, Nintendo releases a more intuitive MP3 peripheral to capitalize on the new market (the MP3-game) if Nini thinks the device is going to float. But it should be noted that in Japan people have been using their GBA SP as a camera/cellphone/mp3/video player for quite some time and most of those peripherals (mp3/cellphone/video) are already available for DS from multiple companies in Japan as well.
I just dont see MS making a mark with it unless they go for it right now. If they take their time in building up this avenue, not only will every corp under the sun jump on it but Nintendo will cover their ass as well by releasing an MP3 gadget with smaller, downloadable first party games. At which point MS would be exactly where they are right now - a bleak "handheld device" future in comparison to Nintendo.