15th July 2004, 8:29 PM
(This post was last modified: 15th July 2004, 8:47 PM by alien space marine.)
A Black Falcon Wrote:It probably does, ASM. It's just too lucrative for there to be no crime in the organ business. It's probably not as big as you kind of imply, and DJ has a point in that it's been greatly exaggerated and turned into many urban legends, but there probably is some truth to it somewhere in the world. But the point really isn't that. It's that just about no one who knows English who read that page would take it seriously. It's written with extremely bad spelling and grammar, the descriptions on the items are hilarious... it's backwoods hicks selling organs! It'd be hard for it to be a much more obvious joke, honestly...
DJ
"Getting a donor is easy, some people donate..."
STOP right there. That is NOT the myth. The myth is that people are STEALING organs.
Now if you want to know why my grammar and writing sucks so bad here is a breif description of my life story to explain.
1.Get over it,If I had not said " it probaily is a fake" then you would be right I am stupid for falling for such a idiot site.As for my grammar skills did you not remeber my old freind Darklord555 AKA Daneil Johnson? He knew me personally and Complained about my grammar skills unless I soppose your gonna believe I was him? A matter of explination, I never finnished High school and I started school in french and struggled with my reading skills because of their shit education system were instead of making us learn pronounciation they just made us memorize hole words in their stupid flop experimental system that was later caned years later, But before they did change their failing system, I switched to a english school in elementary and having to learn how to read and write in english for the first time while other kids were years ahead of me didnt help.But unlike the french education system I actually started to progress in reading,I moved to another province. Eventually I caught up after to starting to read books for fun and enjoying it so much. Then in grade 7-8 I was tormented and bullied even beaten up and got depressed , I fell behind in my work and eventually started to skip school to avoid being harrased and was isolated alone losing my social skills , But I still was abled to pull through and make into grade 9, I was still depressed and had health problems also at the time I didnt know I had celliac desease which is a genetic alergy to Gluten which gives you a sore stomach and can make you slow and disoriented, I also had head pressure and headaches because of my underbite,But I had that fixed in surgery 2 years ago and now I dont get headaches anymore. I got home schooled and was abled to complete my grade 9 work but my fucking lazy son of a bitch principle didnt even accept anything I did with the teacher he sent to my house to teach me, He failed me in grade 9, I repeated the grade but still because of everything I failed again they socialy promoted me, I switched schools to escape that fat bitchs unsympathetic attitude, I found a school that had a principle who was willing to make sure I had all the help I needed to make it through whats funny is that I failed grade 9 but passed grade 10 as I had worked extra hard and forced myself to deal with my problems.But because of my dad job I moved back to quebec and becuase their different education system not having grade 12, My grade 10 in new brunswick was equal to their grade 9, Now after spending two years dealing with that fucking grade and its 14 year old crackwhores.I went to adult Ed being 16 years old but only lasted a month because After going through all of that I was stuck with mental disorders and obessive compulsive thoughts that affected my ability to concentrate and so I was not abled to keep up in school and just quit out of fustration since it costs money, So now am living without a high school education working doing garden work and snow removal in the winter times which isnt much money.
I dont like being called 12 years old as anyone else would hate it and be insulted especially me,I am 17 and will be 18 in 2 months.Its true I did lie about my age on CS being so young then but when I came to tendocity and Dan Johnson showed up once I had to be truthful about my true age 2 years ago since he knew I was 15 at the time. The boards helped my grammar skills it improved them alot from when I first started and kept me busy ,Unfortunately I wonder if I ever will be abled to write like a normal person?
You dont know my life you dont know what I sufferd, These boards for many years were my only way to keep communication with other human beings besides my busy working parents,Which is one reason why I got pissed at Finex and SMB who continually insulted me and put me down after being at CS for years before them,It was my escape from the bullying in reality and here my hiding place is now overun by them , I got angry one night and nearly deleted the battlefeild but of course I stoped myself just 5 seconds after clicking the button and freezed it remebering how much fun I had there and tried many times to keep the place alive and that some people were innocent and didnt desserve to lose it either, the stupid Gayezboards was fried and was to cheap to have a undo previous deletion option and for some reason threads started to desapear afterwards but the battlefeild was still acessible. In Finex mind I was still there deleting threads which was false actually what I did was try to delete the hole forum but I stoped it after 5 seconds of starting but the computer was fucked out of its mind , He panic not only baned me but also deleted my account out of existence and did everything in his power to make me bleed and refferd to me as a baby with a gun, Tried to convince everyone who had ever been there that I was evil and no good when actually it was his behavour and continued virtual bullying because of my grammar errors and making a big issue over my mistakes with his big ego streaks putting me down because of my lack of knowledge like the industrial revolution that I had never learned about in school but just knew a little bit about. That waisnt just being proven wrong in debating and being a sore loser like he would amply,In reality he treated me like pure piece of shit that doesnt desserve to live after being proven wrong had me singled out and stole the fun of the debate battlefeild forum,When he first came to the forum he was a troll trying to prove to everyone he was smarter then everyone else and made good fun bashing me personally to get noticed.
I had poor self esteem at the time and maybe going there was a bad idea but I was young and stupid then.
Quote:DJ
"Getting a donor is easy, some people donate..."
STOP right there. That is NOT the myth. The myth is that people are STEALING organs.
I never said it was all stolen organs or ever said stolen organ black market,
I said organ transplant black market , Who is to say some of these shady groups wouldnt have a website with even graphic images of organs on sale? Alot are frauds trying to steal from desperate people needing a transplant maybe not educated enough to know its a scam ,Others could be showing the organs saying a donnor can be found for the surgery at this location in this country and pay now to sign up.Which do exist as you now admit.
But to be correct you clearly didnt read all my links that I gave, In one of them talks about a Chinese docter in china who would remove the organs of death row inmates just about to be executed even with them still alive and sell their kidneys.A Chinese docter actually tried to sell organs he extracted from living people agiast their will! Organs can survive on ice and frozen for a few days using new techniques and technologies perhaps this guy had acess to this ?or even had patients waiting ready to recieve the organs the same day he extracted them. Alot of the stories of stealing kidneys are probaily urban legends and myth, But like I had found in a online article some mad Docters from 3rd world countries equiped and capable of doing this have atleast tried to do it and sell organs by stealing it from people like that story I found on the net. How about the idea a kidnaper from some 3rd world country grabs children and finds a partner working at a transplant clinic with patients ready to receive and extracts organs from little children and sells it for cash?Its not impossible?
http://www.ualberta.ca/~pflaman/organtr.htm
scroll down to number 4 section, 4. Ethical Issues Regarding Procurement of Organs and Tissues . There is a part about stolen organs.