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    Tendo City Tendo City: Metropolitan District Tendo City REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!!

     
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    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!!
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    26th September 2005, 7:52 PM
    lazyfatbum Wrote:Ryan's doing exactly what OB1 did, ignore valid points, look for ways to stretch and bend the truth and push his own opinions as fact.

    Your whole argument is that it's not a D-pad unless it has arrows on it. What an infantile statement to make, really. The purpose of a direction pad is to allow input that makes things move in the direction you press. The purpose of a direction pad is not to have visible arrows.
    Quote: The facts are here and again, reagrdless of your opinion Ryan, everyone on Earth knows that Nintendo invented the successful d-pad and Intellivision invented the failed disk.

    Everyone thought the earth was flat, too. What does that say for popular opinion?
    Quote:All you're doing is saying the Intellivision is better because you owned that system first. I owned a Commodore 64 first, then I had an Atari 2600 and an Intellivision, then I had NES. I was playing video games months after I learned to walk and even though I owned multiple systems before NES I understood that there is a clear winner when I first hooked up my NES.

    There you go, twisting my words. I never said the Intellivision is a better console than the NES, and I have actually stated quite the opposite. This is what I mean by you turning this into something it wasn't. The NES was loads better than the Intellivision in almost every way. My only point, what originated this entire lambasting, is that the D-Pad was not a Nintendo invention. And no matter how you try to dress it up, it's still true.
    Quote: Nothing will ever change the fact that Nintendo owns the patent on the cross shaped 8 direction d-Pad.

    Wonderful. That discounts the fact that there was a D-Pad before it. The point you refuse to acknowledge.
    Quote:Which is factually an innovative design that has set itself as an industry standard making all other forms of digital input devices for movement in video games obsolete unless the game called specifically for a radical design, such as a light gun. Look up innovative in the dictionary, that's what Nintendo did. They were the first company to design a d-pad. The Intellivision is not a d-pad because it doesn't even have directions on it; it's a blank disk with 16 points of reference. The definition of directional pad is a pad with directions on it with 8 points of reference. Which Nintendo owns the patent on. Intellivision does not.

    Just give this argument up. It's so stupid. Nintendo owns a patent on their digital pad design. They do not own a patent on the concept. If they did, every company out there would have to license the entire technology and pay royalties to Nintendo, regardless of the design. Nobody owns a patent on the technology because it's an evolution of technology before it.

    Quote:The d-pad is a not a modernization, it is a radically different design that, as you said, is 'different under neath'. It performs the same task, but it's easier for the player, easier for the developer, cheaper to make and just plain better.

    You contradict your first statement with the last. "It does the same thing, only better".
    Quote:What controller had you use your thumbs? I'm so glad you walked in to this one. Every single controller ever made for home or arcade, some even used arrow keys on the number pad for controlling your character while the stick was used for aiming. All the way back to Asteroids and Pong, you used your thumbs and fingers to control the game through dials and push buttons. Using a thumb JUST for directions, was done on multiple games on multiple systems usually through the keypad before Intellivision, the first that did it was the first home console ever designed, the Channel F which had large thumb sticks that could also be rotated. The Arcadia 2001 also used thumb sticks, but i'm unsure of it's release on the market.

    One of the other systems that let you control with your thumbs (on a keypad) was the Nintendo 6 in 1 which came out before Intellivision I might add. But the biggest contender for thumb-control was the Odyssey and Odyssey II which used tiny sticks that you controlled with your thumb, it came out years before the Intellivision. They are the grandfather's of the d-pad, not the Intellivision.

    None of those that you mentioned worked the same way as the modern D-Pad does, which is a flat surface where your thumb manipulates the motion without the aid of sticks or knobs. That is where the Intellivision got it first. The NES control uses the same basic function.

    Since you refuse to acknowledge this, I have to either believe you're just too blinded by your loyalty to a game company, or you never really have touched one before.

    Afternote: The Oddysee had joysticks. I owned an O2. There were no tiny thumb-sticks.

    Quote: Again: The Intellivision control disk had no actual directions on it and 16 points of reference, not 8 as you would find on a d-pad from Nintendo, Sega, Sony, Microsoft, etc.

    It did have directions on it. If you pressed to the right, your man would move to the right. If you pressed up, you went up. If you pressed down-left, you moved down and to the left.

    This is the most ridiculous part of your whole argument, the idea that it can't be a D-pad because it doesn't show the arrows. It's bullshit, man. You know, analog sticks have no arrows or directions (except for Nintendo's with the notches), so that must mean that Sony and Sega and Microsoft have never created an analog controller.

    Same argument. One which you continually ignore.
    Quote:The Intellivision control disk is not a d-pad, it is a failed input device. Nintendo created the D-Pad. Intellivision did not create the d-pad. They were close, but no where near the real deal.

    Keep telling yourself this.
    Quote:Since you already made a claim that all controllers are spin-offs and modernizations of the original joysticks and rollerballs, then you have successfully made it a point to destroy both our arguments. I know you dont beleive that all controllers are remakes of joysticks and rollerballs, but I just wanted to point out how rediculous you're sounding.

    I don't believe they are all 'remakes' or 'ripoffs'. I believe they are the evolutionary descendants of these controllers. There's a huge difference.

    Quote:You thought the Intellivision was the first console to use a controller with an input that you controlled with your thumb. But there are atleast 3 systems that did it before Intellivision, most note worthy being the Odyssey.

    Took care of that one above.

    Quote: With it's 8 direction D-Pad.

    That it has a patent for.

    So, do me a favor. Find me a copy of this patent, and point out the text within that states SPECIFICALLY that having a cross-shaped design is what makes this technology unique against anything before it. Show me where it states that any future version of the D-pad must utilize this exact design to be allowed to call itself a D-Pad.

    I guarantee you will not find it.

    And you really don't need to keep up this advertising for Nintendo. I mean, I do own almost all of their consoles and I do enjoy them immensely. I can do this without being blindly devoted to them to the extreme in which I attribute every single innovation in the industry upon them.

    Quote:Oh yeah, a system from a company that makes disposable walkmans, blenders, TV's, vibrating chairs, headphones and moist wipes releases a home console for 400 bucks that is basically a SNES with a SFX chip capable of a higher polygon count that, not unlike their other devices, fails to continue working after 6 months of use. All because people like YOU, played FF7 and thought "TEE HEE they put the word "shit" in a video game! that means they're better! *SMALL DICK*" But no matter what you think, or say, or do, and no matter how hard you try, Nintendo will always be the best because of the fact that they are the only company that actually cares about the video game industry because that's ALL they DO and long after Sony stops making video game systems i'll be playing on my Nintendo while I watch you wait your turn to play, jackass.

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    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!! - by Great Rumbler - 15th September 2005, 6:46 PM
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