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    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!!
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    17th September 2005, 5:27 PM
    Well that settles it then!

    Just to make it clear N_A, I'm not trying to say that Nintendo doesn't deserve the credit here. I'm also not saying copying is a sign of innovation (um...). I'm merely pointing out the reality that copying hardware is a needed step and shouldn't be looked down upon. This isn't an either/or moral thing here, it's merely reality.

    And yeah, when it comes down to it the HD and the online stuff is PC original.

    I will say this. If the idea of two sticks, both of which also function as a buttons, can only be considered an off-shoot of Nintendo's idea and not a single bit of that amounts to creativity in any sense in your mind, then by the same token, how can the analog stick of the N64 really be considered creative? Joystick for the thumb, that's all.

    No matter though, I do consider that an innovation for comfort's sake, and I do consider two sticks an innovation for what they have proven useful for.

    I won't go into some muddy emotional definition of "the difference between a mere evolution and true innovation". People can decide that for themselves. If you ask me, it's all evolution from previous things but to different degrees.

    In the end, all I'm saying is there is no reason to make some moral fuss over them. It's as though you actually take their decisions like this personally. I believe it would be best if you simply took a much more pragmatic view of this whole thing.

    Well, no matter, what I can say is this really seems like a great addition that will help gameplay. But, yeah I really do think that making that B button on the bottom pressure sensitive, as well as those buttons under the analog stick part, would only help.
    "On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." ~ Charles Babbage (1791-1871)
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    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!! - by Great Rumbler - 15th September 2005, 6:46 PM
    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!! - by Great Rumbler - 15th September 2005, 6:48 PM
    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!! - by The Former DMiller - 15th September 2005, 6:49 PM
    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!! - by Great Rumbler - 15th September 2005, 6:54 PM
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    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!! - by A Black Falcon - 15th September 2005, 7:02 PM
    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!! - by Geno - 15th September 2005, 7:04 PM
    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!! - by Great Rumbler - 15th September 2005, 7:06 PM
    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!! - by Great Rumbler - 15th September 2005, 7:10 PM
    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!! - by Weltall - 15th September 2005, 7:14 PM
    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!! - by Great Rumbler - 15th September 2005, 7:34 PM
    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!! - by A Black Falcon - 15th September 2005, 7:34 PM
    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!! - by Geno - 15th September 2005, 7:37 PM
    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!! - by Dark Jaguar - 15th September 2005, 7:39 PM
    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!! - by Great Rumbler - 15th September 2005, 7:43 PM
    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!! - by A Black Falcon - 15th September 2005, 7:52 PM
    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!! - by Dark Jaguar - 15th September 2005, 8:15 PM
    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!! - by EdenMaster - 15th September 2005, 8:36 PM
    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!! - by Dark Jaguar - 15th September 2005, 9:02 PM
    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!! - by A Black Falcon - 15th September 2005, 9:35 PM
    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!! - by EdenMaster - 16th September 2005, 12:18 AM
    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!! - by Dark Jaguar - 16th September 2005, 4:15 AM
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    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!! - by A Black Falcon - 16th September 2005, 7:19 PM
    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!! - by N_A - 17th September 2005, 12:33 AM
    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!! - by Dark Jaguar - 17th September 2005, 12:49 AM
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    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!! - by N_A - 17th September 2005, 5:38 AM
    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!! - by Great Rumbler - 17th September 2005, 6:32 AM
    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!! - by lazyfatbum - 17th September 2005, 7:18 AM
    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!! - by EdenMaster - 17th September 2005, 9:00 AM
    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!! - by Dark Jaguar - 17th September 2005, 10:07 AM
    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!! - by Great Rumbler - 17th September 2005, 1:40 PM
    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!! - by Weltall - 17th September 2005, 2:22 PM
    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!! - by Dark Jaguar - 17th September 2005, 2:41 PM
    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!! - by The Former DMiller - 17th September 2005, 2:58 PM
    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!! - by Dark Jaguar - 17th September 2005, 3:35 PM
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    REVOLUTION CONTROLLER HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!!! - by N_A - 17th September 2005, 4:07 PM
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