21st February 2005, 11:56 PM
Quote:TC has always been home to countless, pointless posts, but it seems like it's gotten worse lately. It seems like some people will post anything, just to maintain their "I just posted last in every forum whoop whoop!" status.
OB1, why are you so sensitive to criticism? You're getting all worked up over practically nothing. As ABF said, it isn't healthy so angry over something so small. I've criticized you only once or twice... so will you now continue to hold a grudge and bitch about me as often as you now bitch about ABF and DJ?
I already explained it. He doesn't want to admit that any fault is ever his so whenever things go bad he needs to blame the other person... and given his temperament, it goes south in a hurry. So he gets really angry over nothing and won't admit that there's anything wrong. Repeatedly.
As I said, this is not a good way for anyone to be acting... the worst part is the self-denial, of course. You can't fix a problem until you admit that it exists...
Quote:Yet you seem to have no problem with doing the same.
The essential core of OB1's problems. See his denial as a reply?
Quote:I RETALIATED. I did NOT provoke. Retaliation is bad, I know, but I have lost all patience with you guys.
As I said, he's in denial about how he acts here.
OB1, you "retaliate" in a way ten times worse than the way anyone else here "provokes", and you're the only person who doesn't know it... as I've said a million times, the way you get so angry so fast, and lose all thought of common sense or logic, and start yelling and insulting people... only in retaliation? Usually something sets you off, yes, but who knows what it was, if what you are replying to is what they meant, if they had any thoughts of trying to incite anything like what your reply was as a response, etc... generally the answer to those questions is 'no'.
"Retaliation" that is far worse than what set it off isn't justifiable.
If you were able to look at this without your biases and anger, you'd see how people here are actually acting, and how you are actually acting... perhaps they'd have some bad points too, but no one's perfect. Including you, much as you desperately try to deny it.
Quote:I've changed the topic title so as not to offend any more people. Well, mainly because I've let off some steam.
Good... but does that mean next time you'll act any differently? I wish it were so.
Quote:How would you define that? By posting in all caps and large font sizes, and making multiple threads to resolve a topic that needs only one? Oh, and how about threatening to ban people? In that case, you have no right to yell at others of doing this. As far as I can see, everyone else who disagrees with the sticky is at least being reasonable about it. Maybe EdenMaster was a little out-of-line for moving the thread before this stupid fight was resolved, but that's it. That, and "deleting GR's pictures", but I'm not sure about the specifics of the incident you're referring to.
Back to the 'OB1 does not understand how he acts' and 'OB1 loves to complain about other people doing bad things which he does worse (but refuses to admit he does anything of the sort)' problems, both of which I have discussed before here at length. The reason used on the other side is IRRELEVANT -- the mere fact that they disagree with OB1, the indisputably perfect being, makes any so-called "reason" in their arguements irrelevant.
Of course, OB1 isn't always wrong. I'm not saying he is. And in this war for instance there's plenty of blame to go around... me for taking out my annoyance on that thread and not on the thing I was really annoyed about (explained in the last reply here), EM for moving the thread, a whole lot of people for never posting and then complaining that there aren't any posts here worth replying to (OB1 is right on that one, you know.), etc.
I'm just saying that the way OB1 acts created this situation and then made it worse. Think about it -- "The thread for me and Johnny"? Is this a thread meant to incite other people INTENTIONALLY, or is it a thread meant to incite others just because OB1 doesn't realize he acts the way he acts? I really don't know which of those is true. And then he made an already bad situation worse with his quite typical two-or-three-insults-per-valid-point reaction he has to anyone who dares to question him. Exactly the way he reacts to me when I say anything he disagrees with.
Again, like with this arguement I'm not always right. I'm definitely wrong sometimes. BUT EVERYONE IS WRONG SOMETIMES. Everyone is human. Including OB1. The fact that he refuses to admit that fact, that he refuses to admit that he ever could be wrong on anything or anything he says about any statement anyone else said could ever have been misinterpreted unless massive proof is given (and even then his admission is doubtful and generally comes via a 'I'll change my position slowly until it's not wrong anymore without admitting I was wrong')... and with so many insults, and so much anger! It's not healthy for OB1, not healthy for whoever he's arguing with, and not healthy for this forum in general.
Quote:Okay, who really does that thread hurt? Who? Barely anyone posts here anymore, mainly it's just maybe 5-6 people who really care about posting here and most of them, except ABF, don't really care that much about the thread being there. SJ, you're complaining about, but how can you complain when you're hardly ever here? OB1 made that thread to post emoticon things in, which we did, who does that hurt? I'm not trying to start this thing up again, I'm just trying to understand the reasoning here, because I simply can't. You want to have in say in what gets stickied? POST! For goodness sake POST! I don't think it's a that irrational for OB1 and I to get a bit upset when people who BARELY POST come in and say that it should be taken down because it's in the way. If you would POST MORE OFTEN we might be more considerate. Obviously, things got out of hand on both sides, but really, it's not hurting anyone in any significant why by its existence.
I wasn't complaining because of the existence of the thread, actually. I was happy to see them out of other posts. I was mostly complaining because of how the two of you had been spamming those stupid pictures in so many threads... it's so annoying... the constant one-word posts, the constant one-smilie posts, now the just-a-drawing posts... IT'S SO STUPID! And now you have a thread for the idiotic things so you have easy access to spam them across the forums EVEN MORE? I did NOT consider that a good thing. THAT is why I was annoyed. Because I DO care about the forum and consider your and OB1's constant idiotic posts bad for it.
Quote:And I'm as equally baffled as to why so many people found offence in it that they had to come out of hybernation to say something about it. Maybe these guys come here everyday and read every post, I don't know, but I do know that they rarely post and they want to complain THEY SHOULD POST. I can't make it any simpler than that.
Because, I'd like to hope, people finally got a chance to speak out against the reign of OB1 and your reign of worthless, word-free posts?
Oh, they are to blame too for not posting. Absolutely, no question. But it doesn't encourage them to post when what IS being posted is in the majority so stupid...