22nd July 2004, 2:23 PM
Quote:That wasn't me, that was from this article...
http://archive.gamespy.com/legacy/e...ls/doom3_a.shtm <http://archive.gamespy.com/legacy/editorials/doom3_a.shtm>
...which you used to argue your point.
Quote:How about the IGN retro-review? I thought it was pretty good...
I couldn't find any of IGN's (frusterating because I know they did them... but where are they hiding...) and obviously can't post PC Gamers because those are from magazines... I always trusted PCG the most though. They called TIE Fighter best game ever in 1998 and Jedi Knight best game ever in '98 (Half-Life in '00, obviously; there wasn't a '99 awards), as well as Civilization II winning second all three of those years... pretty good choices.
"Trust"? Don't you mean "agree with"?
Quote:When enough people say something, you need to consider why they do. It doesn't mean that it's something you will like as well obviously, but things like that don't usually happen randomly! And my point was that it isn't just a few reviewers or best-games lists, it's ALL of them... that definitely says something. You just as obviously don't agree with the message, but it says something and it's pretty dumb to pass it all off as just because of the graphics. It's pretty clear to me that there was more to it than that. You might not see the shooting action as especially fun or like the level designs, atmosphere, or characters, but so many people did that it's just incredibly stupid to try to say that they are all idiots.I'm not calling them idiots, just lemmings and graphics whores. Doom is like a holy grail for PC gamers, and most of them probably don't even stop to think for a second if it deserves that praise. Doom is an average game that inspired dozens of great games, and apparently that is enough for most people.
Quote:As for great and unique gameplay, that is true everywhere. It's no more common on consoles for the games with the truly amazing gameplay to be fully recognized for it... so that 'point' of yours is badly flawed if you mean it to say that console gamers recognize quality better. That's just not true.No, we just have a far better selection of quality titles, don't even try to deny that. But it's not the industry's fault, they don't have Nintendo, Sega, Konami, Namco, Square, etc.
Quote:On an unrelated note, I prefer to call them ID than id, mostly because in the Keen games they called themselves ID.
The company name is pronounced like id as in "id and ego", not like I.D.