Quote:No I don't. It's just the next step. Was there a point to that question or do you actually think Doom 3 is innovating anything? Is it one of the best games I've seen? Yes, it's quite stunning to see whatever that red thing was eating that one dude in the bathroom (though that's likely not his thoughts), but it's just improving upon the old. It's evolutionary, not revolutionary. It's like Super Mario Sunshine compaired to Mario 64.
Ahha! That is where you are wrong, buddy. They had to create new graphical techniques, new ways to get those awesome graphics. I suppose you also think that The Matrix was more innovative in the field of visual effects than The Phantom Menace was, don't you? Well you'd be wrong there as well. In TPM didn't simply do Jurrasic Park better. It's not as simple as adding more polygons or better textures. They had to create new ways of doing special effects, make new technology and software in order to do the things they have done. In the Matrix all they did was take twenty cameras and spin them around the characters. Cool looking, yes. But that was the only innovation in that movie, f/x-wise. With Wind Waker Nintendo took this little gimmick called cel-shading and completely revolutionized the way it could be used.
Quote:Anyway, it looks very 3D to me. Remember, EVERY game (except on Virtual Boy) is 2D to our eyes. 3D has to be implied, and it is just as implied here using cel shading as it is using other techniques. If you are saying WW looks like a flat piece of paper then maybe you are the one insulting it. It looks very 3D, and yet handdrawn. In fact, most hand drawn things done by GOOD artists look 3D, and when done really well it's just as 3D as any CG animation. The only way to really beat it is to TRULY go 3D like in an IMAX or with VR goggles, because most recent artistic techniques have revolved around making the image look 3D. Remember, a TV screen is 2D.
Is this really that complicated a concept for you?
These look like 3D models:
![[Image: Kingdom-Hearts1.jpg]](http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jcmy/Kingdom-Hearts1.jpg)
This looks like a 2D drawing:
![[Image: zerudadec13emb2.jpg]](http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/zerudadec13emb2.jpg)