10th May 2004, 11:00 AM
Quote:What, you mean an area the size of Vermont? And you put "failure" in marks as though I actually said that word. You added failure; I just said in the beginning that they were the two worst European powers militarily. AND THEY WERE. One can tell that you're a liberal; it's in everything you say... "we're all special, there are no losers." Austria and Spain are, militarily, second class .
Yes, Hungary, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia-Herzegovina (sp?), a big chunk of Romania (Transylvania was part of Hungary), and, of course, Austria are indeed about as large as Vermont. I bow to your superior geographic knowledge...

Naturally, their pitiful military might is proven by how the conquered all that... and same with Spain. 'Even a dim bulb has bright days'??? Spain was one of the most powerful countries in Europe for many decades, and worth mentioning for some time after that! And Austria was a powerful empire for centuries! You are insane!
So what are all these nations with SOOOO much better military records? Britain? France? Prussia? Italy? Umm, all of them have plenty of failures too, if you look at the "right" times like you're doing! EVERYONE has failures. Every empire weakens and slowly falls. Just like every one has a strong point.
Did I ever say that by the late 1800s Austria and Spain weren't weak empires? No. By that point, they had declined quite far. But your statements are very clearly not just talking about then. You're talking about their whole history. And that proves you to be totally wrong.
As for Mexico, they just had the bad luck to be just south of a much more powerful nation.