Quote:Maximillian who France withdrew support from and chose to stay there by himself? Mexico deposed him. France left because of American intervention. Mexico could never militarilly best any country. Even Canada could (probably) hold its own against them!

A Black Falcon Wrote:Mexico also did pretty well against Spain in the 1820s... :)

Darunia Wrote:A country fighting for its independence will always fight harder than a nation fighting to control another one.

Quote:It's time to learn to stop hating countries for no reason at all.

Quote:Spain (and Austria) are the only two countries with worse military records than Mexico. They were both superpowers once; but neither has won a war in 400+ years, and isolated they couldn't win a war against an army of kittens.

Quote:SPEAKING OF AUSTRIA, that plays very well into our discussion here, about immigration. Austria is just what it is today: one small Germanic country. It expanded to encompass more land, and soon it had dozens of minorities: Poles, Slavs, Germans, Greeks, Macedonians, Muslims---all these diverse peoples. They all wanted autonomy, and it tore Austria apart. What will happen in 50 years when California and New Mexico is SO overwhelmingly Spanish that THEY want to secede, like Quebec wants to do now?

Quote:If people keep leaving Mexico at this rate wouldn't Mexico eventually be empty?

Quote:You're taking it way, WAY too liberally. All I'm saying is that Mexico's military sucks; which it very well does. You claim that because Spain was beaten by Mexico, Mexico must be pretty tough there. If two retarded cripples get into a fight, one will eventually win; that doesn't mean that the winner is a superman. As for Austria, she was a superpower under the Habsurgs for centuries, but she was never a major military power unto herself. Way back to the 16th century; she survived in alliances. She was large and powerful, but a poor fighter. No matter with whom she was alligned, she inevitably failed---right up until her very last dance, WWI. She was an embarassment to Germany, who had to drain troops from the front lines to keep Italy and Russia out of Austria. She lost to France in 1859; ceded Nice and Savoy. She was a hilarious bumbling fool in the Napoleonic Wars, time and time and time again. She was persistent; the only major Austrian victory was at Leipzig---when she was helpe by Russian and Prussian troops; outnumbering Napoleon 3-1. Other than that, at Aspern-Essling, the great Austrian victory there merely forced Napoleon to withdraw for the day. They trumpeted it as saving Vienne and the war---but this was just weeks before Wagram, which was a defeat so telling that they abdicated (for the fifth time) days afterwards. Before that, Austria lost the Seven Years' War after Catherine the Great negotiated Russia out of it; she lost the War of the Spanish Succession...Austria lost, furthermore, way back in the Thirty Years' War. Inbetween she won and lost many minor wars, but all were inconsequential. Spain...well, after 1638, she was cursed. 1588 was the armada; then she lost big in the Thirty Years' War to the protestants...lost her empire piece-by-piece to the English, Dutch and French. Napoleon occupied and controlled Spain; and after he fell, her south america pride all broke free. Then, in 1898 the US kicked Spain's ass in less than a year, and took what remained of her colonial prestige in just a few months. Point being: I was right, Austria and Spain are poor fighters.

Quote:Spain...well, after 1638, she was cursed. 1588 was the armada; then she lost big in the Thirty Years' War to the protestants...lost her empire piece-by-piece to the English, Dutch and French. Napoleon occupied and controlled Spain; and after he fell, her south america pride all broke free. Then, in 1898 the US kicked Spain's ass in less than a year, and took what remained of her colonial prestige in just a few months. Point being: I was right, Austria and Spain are poor fighters.

Quote:[b]Spain (and Austria) are the only two countries with worse military records than Mexico. They were both superpowers once; but neither has won a war in 400+ years, and isolated they couldn't win a war against an army of kittens.