1st May 2004, 11:59 AM
(This post was last modified: 1st May 2004, 12:06 PM by A Black Falcon.)
Quote:Seriously. Is it no longer fun to visit this place for any of you? I know it is for me. I really can't stand getting into arguments with ABF and DJ on such a constant basis, and I really fucking hate the two of them most of the time. Maybe it's their fault, maybe it's my fault, or maybe both. I don't know. All I know is that Tendo City is rarely fun for me anymore, and I think that's got to change. I think we need to stop with the constant conflict and try to maintain peace. Impossible? Maybe, but it's worth a shot I say. The only reason I've been posting here since 1999 is because I love video games and want to talk about them with fellow video game dorks, but you can't really get that anywhere on the internet anymore. Go to any major gaming forum, ign, gaming-age, whatever, and all people do is bitch and fight. Since this is a much smaller community I think it might be possible to put an end to it, if all of you assholes (j/k) agree to have a truce. Certain people here get on my nerves, so I'm not as nice as I could be to them. But if they don't act nice it's tough for me to do the same.
I don't hate you. Oh, your intransience in arguements and absolute refusal to ever consider that you could be wrong is incredibly, incredibly annoying, and arguements with you often go nowhere, and sometimes I DO wish that you just quit it because of how amazingly annoying it is to argue with someone who will NEVER conceed a point even when it's blatantly obvious, but the rest of the time you're nice to have around... when you aren't distorting what I say and turning simple statements into arguements which, once you choose a side, you'll absolutely refuse to ever change your opinion on despite any amount of facts.
Quote:The fact is, you can be a VERY abbrasive person.
That is absolutely correct. And OB1, if it was just me I'd say it could be me, but when it's a whole bunch of people it's a pretty good idea that it's you... oh, everyone has problems, certainly, but you love to blame everyone else when clearly you too have issues.
Quote:I don't know. I get along with everyone. And, even though ABF and I disagree (sometimes very strongly) on just about everything, I don't hold it against him. Hell, the times I'm most active here are when some big issue has us at each others' throats. I get annoyed by his inability to see reason but deep down, it's fun to spar with him. And, I often get personal long before he does, which is wrong. It's not like me. In an internetsy-sort of way, I consider him a friend, just like I consider all of you friends in an internetsy-way. After all, you're all the reason I fork up dough for this place. I don't do it for my health.
I agree... we never agree on any arguements and it gets old, but for some reason it doesn't make me as annoyed as arguing with OB1 does... probably because I never expect to change your mind while with OB1 I often DO think that I have a point and he utterly refuses to see it and constantly warps what I mean far beyond what I said.
Geno. The Goron Front thread was a better arguement than average, I'd say... why? Probably because it didn't involve OB1, really. It's amazing, but without him debates actually can go somewhere!
OB1... I say that you misrepresent me all the time, and that you don't seem to really read what I say and try to understand what I actually meant. That is probably worse than the insults and the stuff you make up, because that usually comes along because of those first problems... do you understand what I mean? I say something. You take it some bad way and fly off on a string of insults. By the time I'm trying to explain myself better you're out of reach and nothing I say will ever get through to you. It's a major problem... you just seem to quickly read through a post, make the worst explanation to yourself possible, and go off on an angry rant. And at that point it's incredibly hard to get you to focus on trying to understand what was MEANT by what was originally said... now, it's obviously okay to respond to a point that you disagree with, but the way you do it doesn't lead to debates that work very well and often leads to pages of trying to explain what our points meant before they go anywhere. That doesn't happen that much with others, I think...
Oh, but you are right that in that thread Lazy had the first insult. Rare, it's usually you. Oh, I well might think them, but I try to not say anything...
I'm not saying it's only OB1's fault though of course. Everyone gets involved and once things start going downhill it is everyone's fault that they get worse...