30th April 2004, 9:49 AM
Quote:It helps me sleep better tonight (not really) because now I know for a fact that you couldn't argue yourself out of a paper bag if your life depended on it. But it was fun leading you on even if just to see how far you would go to prove a non-issue that is barely a discussion in the first place.Haha, if I only I could learn from the great lazyfatbum the art of debating. Yes, what I would need to is to dodge the other person's points, make example to back up my points that aren't even appropriate, and then talk about how someone smarter than me says I'm wrong. GENIUS!
Quote:Loony Toons for example were made in strict time periods with little money in deserted lots at movie studios. Most of the time they didn't know how the cartoon would end and had to deal with the production of 10 cartoons at once, so they would just completely break the laws of physics for fun. It had no logic, it had no reason, it had no script it had only one purpose; to be funny. They didn't design any theories of comedy or write a thesis on "Loony Toons subtextual underlining meanings behind physics in toon world". They simply made the characters do whacky things for laughs.All of the great animators of the 20th century talked about realism within fantasy, where you need to make boundaries even for insane cartoon physics. Iwata actually made a very similar speach this past GDC, you should check it out. Perhaps then you won't look like such an asswipe.
Walt Disney himself called it imagineering, where you imagine how something could work if you could completely break all the laws of physics. And that's exactly what B~K is, it's a 3-D adventure platformer... with comedy. If Kazooie wanted to she could become a tank or a sword or a gun or a boomerang or whatever the game designers would want her to be While Banjo himself could become a Washing Machine or a Tyranosaurus - or learn a new move where suddenly your backpack heals you but it doesn't heal Kazooie. Anything goes, even a bird becoming a plane... which takes very little imagination, OB1. Even for you.
Quote:oh yeah, the contradiction you made was very simple, you said Kazooie cant act like a plane; I showed that she easily can with her tail feathers, and then you agreed with me yet continued to argue and completely miss the fact that I gave kazooie an ability that never existed before, is completely out of character (she could only twirl her tail for a few seconds and she could only do it underwater), makes no sense and has absolutely no basis in any B~K game but i'm not done yet. You, the person who says that a character MUST behave the same way in every game and OBEY LAWS made in the first game for the rest of their carreers and argues that he is the best arguer - Failed to realize that Kazooie is in a backpack and CANT USE HER TAIL FEATHERS. Fun stuffAh, but that is where you are wrong. If Banjo were to ride on top of Kazooie rather than carry her on his back, she could use her tail feathers. At first I couldn't think of a good way to make Kazooie fly like a plane, and neither could you. But that last example sounded like it could actually work.