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    #78
    29th April 2004, 11:34 AM
    OB1 you are disregarding my factual statements taken from game designer books at Fullsail. But it doesn't matter. if you're not going to acknowledge factual information then the debate is certainly over.

    Kazooie doesn't need to fly like a jet, she needs to fly like a DKR plane, which she already does. I just played DKR and the planes actually move up and down slower than Kazooie can, she can dive bomb in any direction, including straight down. She did that by wrapping her wings around herself and shooting like a rocket, that could be her boost animation. You say her degree of movement is only slight, when in fact it's more precise than the planes. Which is logical since in B~K you need excellent control over her flight to land on platforms without falling, or dying.

    D-Pad aim's flight direction

    A Button; Tap to flap wings sending Kazooie up or down quickly depending on direction. Hold to glide, steer with D-pad.

    B button could be easily made in to an air brake.

    R can be tilt for tighter turning. Double tap R; while nosing up to loop, while pressing left or right to barrel roll. Hold R and B to turn quickly.

    L Eggs; Hold to get a target, release to fire. Tap to fire without target.

    To upgrade eggs, collect the same color balloon up to 3 times.

    Red/yellow Ballons:

    Normal Blue Egg. Fires in a straight line.
    Flame Egg. Homes in on target.
    Nest Egg. Fire 10 Normal Blue eggs.

    Yellow/purple balloons

    Green Glowing Egg. 3 Second Sheild
    Blue Glowing Egg. 5 second Shield
    Purple Glowing Egg. 10 second Shield

    Green/brown balloons

    Black Egg. Kazooie passes gas and leaves a cloud behind her.
    Spiked Egg. Kazooie leaves a proximity mine behind her.
    The Smoking Egg. Kazooie leaves a rotten egg that explodes on contact and immobolizes them temporarily.

    Blue/yellow balloons

    Gold Egg. the smallest boost, let go of gas to get the most of it.
    Jeweled Egg. Larger boost, let go of gas for the best effect.
    Clockwork Kazooie Egg. A mechanical kazooie grabs on to Banjo and gives B~K a 3 second jet booster.

    Select; Change camera

    As you can see, with only slight tweaking, Kazooie is now an exact duplicate of the plane without altering any of her abilities or character. Whether you agree or not, I have proven that Kazooie would be a fine replacement for the DKR plane. One of the teachers at Fullsail who teaches character modeling and interaction completely agrees with me, she also loves DKR and B~K, and would love to see Kazooie instead of the plane. Now if someone more educated than you and I put together on the topic of character design and player interaction says i'm right, then you have to stop and think.

    You should also notice, OB1, that no one else is posting in this thread other than DJ. because everyone at this board knows that you simply argue for no reason, even when presented with factual data and being proven wrong you continue to argue just for the sake of arguing. Because of that... no one wants to have a REAL debate as long as you're there, because you simply tell everyone you're right without proving anything. I'm not trying to dog you, this is just what i've noticed from this thread alone, as if i was a newbie.

    This debate is over unless you can provide concrete factual data that Kazooie cannot act like a plane in DKR. (yes, this is a trick question, of course Kazooie can act like anything, she even turns in to a torpedo for God's sake, all i'm doing now is trying to push you further to make you look even more rediculous, no offence. But hopefully it will help you realize how impossible you are to have a friendly debate where opinions are shared, not forced)
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