29th April 2004, 11:18 AM
Quote:Dude, Geno, stop being so anti-immigration! Fittisize will say you're a nazi, Illusion will blast you as not having been to Europe, and ABF will spend hours online looking up remedial facts to impress you! Just resign yourself, because in a few more years, WE'LL be the minority, and then we'll get free college and all of that horse shit.
I don't look things up for debates with you. I have a few times in political debates with Weltall, but those require more facts than these... everything I say is things I think up.
As for foreign languages, go ahead. I'm bad at them which is why I don't take more, but I did go through Spanish IV (two years Jr. High, 3 in highschool)... of course that was several years back now so I don't remember much, but I did take it. Not really for fun though, it was always my least favorite academic subject...
Quote:We feel like it's our fault, that we put them there. The truth is, they want to be there because they don’t want to adapt and they won’t teach their children to adapt, they want to be around people like themselves and pretend the other people don’t exist. It's the oldest and most powerful instinct. And now we live in a time where people are afraid to have an opinion unless it sounds good on paper or is politically correct. You can’t hate anyone now without being branded as an evil throwback to early western civilization. Bullshit; I will hate or like anyone I choose. It is a privilege to be respected, not a right; But people are so frightened of speaking up that we let it happen and watch it from the side lines, we even raise our children to be numb pacifists who ignore political conflict and take the easy way out.
This all leads to this thread right now: Political pacifists angry at themselves arguing over how other people should be treated and desperately trying to push their opinion on others in the hope that they’ll convert someone just to justify their own mental and moral dilemma. If you want to be a goody two shoes-I love everybody-black and white precursor to devout Christianity then by all means go for it, but do NOT try tell me that your opinion is more correct than mine.
You had some good points before this point, Lazy, but... you think they really want to be in that situation? Okay, I'll give you that many blacks especially don't try as hard as they could to get out. That is true. But they've been near the bottom for so long now... As for Mexicans, I'd say it's too early to tell, really. Many of them are relatively recent arrivals and the recent ones, as I've said, are always the ones on bottom. We'll have to give them time... but I would admit that in the illegals case it doesn't look as good. They come here for opportunity but don't really understand all of what it means to succeed in America and won't make the full effort...
As for illegals, I obviously don't like them. What should we do? Well, I don't support a fence like (insane) Pat Buchanan said at some time, but we probably could be doing more to fight it... we need to do more than just kicking them back across the border, too. They'll just try again next week!