29th April 2004, 8:29 AM
One last thing, concerning my blatent insults and "you know I'm right" statement. You are totally right, those are terrible argument methods, in fact just insults plain and simple. Seems I shouldn't have done that though. Anyway, believe it or not a point was made. I essentially was doing EXACTLY what you do VERY often in debates. That is, you constantly claim that everyone knows you are right, or that the other person is being too stubborn to admit it, and do all sorts of shoutings of "moron!". When it's done to YOU, you see exactly how stupid and pointless it is. However, you didn't acknowledge that you do the same thing all the time. ABF himself has stated EXACTLY what you said. "Oh yeah, shouting "you are wrong" sure does prove you right..." ring a bell? Honestly OB1, it's like it's fine when YOU do it, but not when anyone else does it. It's wrong no matter who does it. I guess I'm saying sorry about doing that to you. Also, keep in mind you shouldn't do that either.
lazy, we seemed to have taken different directions in our arguments, though yours I believe was more valid. My main argument was that it WAS totally within character for her to do it, and yours was that it didn't matter because they change them all the time, and then eventually it all blended together into the same amalgament. Anyway, yes I totally agree that OB1, deep down, knows he agrees with us, but is likely being a "devil's advocate" or something... in the most ass way possible.
lazy, we seemed to have taken different directions in our arguments, though yours I believe was more valid. My main argument was that it WAS totally within character for her to do it, and yours was that it didn't matter because they change them all the time, and then eventually it all blended together into the same amalgament. Anyway, yes I totally agree that OB1, deep down, knows he agrees with us, but is likely being a "devil's advocate" or something... in the most ass way possible.
"On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." ~ Charles Babbage (1791-1871)