Banjo Pilot

[OB1]

Honestly OB1, why are you arguing this?

Because this is a video game board and that is what we do.

The bree bird is not known for her LACK of speed, just her flying. Why would it be SO wrong to make her super fast and yet at the same time perfectly natural to slap them in flying planes? Donkey Kong was riding on Rambi who is just as slow as kazooie in DK's games, but he was REALLY fast there. You saying there's a massive difference? No, don't even bother saying "but Rambi could use a super burst" because we tried pointing out that the bree bird could do the same thing and you didn't like THAT idea.

I don't care what the real life bird is known for, as the fact remains that Kazooie is a very slow flyer in both Banjo games. Not only would making her as fast as a jet without some sort of power-up be very dumb, but making her fly like a plane instead of a bird would be even worse. She would have to flap her wings constantly and then slowly glide downwards, which is nothing like a plane. Part of the challenge of racing games is the difficulty of piloting your fast craft, and Kazooie is extremely easy to "pilot".
Rambi? You mean the rhino? The rhino was plenty fast in DK, and since it's not just one particular character it's easy to imagine one being faster than the others.

You completely ignored my whole Kirby point, which was that Kirby already HAS the ability to turn to stone, AND do the cutter, AND all that, without even having to eat enemies to temporarily gain it. The fact that Kirby only gets his powers after eating an enemy, not just naturally having them from the start, is RIGHT there a part of Kirbyosity. And Ness didn't HAVE a lot of his abilities until they dumped them on him. Falcon had not one super power until SSB. They just added those out of the big blue.

It doesn't matter all that much if Kirby was able to perform certain moves without eating an enemy as all that was changed was the manner in which he was able to perform those moves. Same thing goes for Ness. Your Falcon point shows just how laughable your argument is as Falcon never stepped out of his vehicle until SSB, so there's no way for you to know if he did or did not have those powers.

Face it OB1, they do this stuff ALL the time, in FAR more inconsistent ways, and your little arguments that the bree bird is not race car fast, just MODERATLY fast, are just plain idiotic. LET them do this stuff to their characters! *Plays Super Mario Sunshine with super jetpack ultra fast water squirting Mario action and doesn't care that it's an item or part of his body because that doesn't even matter.*

OB1, you KNOW you are wrong deep down, and you KNOW you would totally love to ride on kazooie, using her like some sort of glider in your backpack, in some race given half a chance. Give up!

I'm sorry DJ, but as per usual all of your points in this argument are a complete joke. I have presented logic and reason while you have done little more than complain about me being in this debate and say how I "KNOW" that I'm wrong. Very, very poor debating skills. FACE IT, girl, you've lost.

And again, why is adding some speed to kazooie SO against her limits and abilities? They LEARN NEW STUFF LIKE THAT ALL THE TIME from a FRICKIN' MOLE (or "ground rat") ALL THE TIME! Their abilities and limits constantly changed! Hey, Mario is loosing and gaining abilities ALL THE TIME WITHOUT ITEMS AT ALL.

Yes but she didn't gain super speed in any of the games, so it was never established. I already said that you could make kazooie fly really fast and totally not like a bird with some crazy power-up or special item, but it would be much more pointless than just substituting her with a plane.