WOW beta!

[A Black Falcon]

I thought this was a Nintendo forum, where we believed in gameplay over graphics.

He tries to deny it but given how he acts OB1 sure looks like he disagrees with that one!

What I've seen of WoW is pretty sweet anyway, at least I think so. I don't care if the models are a little blocky or they don't have the latest "cool" graphic buzzword technique going on. Have you seen the atmosphere of the Night Elf forests? droool. All the places I've seen look great. I'll take great art design over poly counts any day. And I've heard the animation is amazing. Warcraft 3 wasn't a super beautiful game either. It's gonna be an awesome game, and I bet it will look a lot nicer in action than in screens.

Watch out, that's almost exactly what I said on page one that got OB1 started on how bad the graphics are, LL!

Anyway, yeah, doesn't it? I like the NE best in WC3 and their stuff looks coolest in WoW too... it just looks amazing. Exactly like I'd expect the NE areas to look like... :) Oh, by the way, just like in WC3 my least favorite is the Orcs/Tauren... I don't know, but I just don't like them nearly as much and their cities don't interest me as much as the others...

And I'm sure it will, but that's not what this debate it about. I'm also sure that if they wanted to, they could have made it look better, but again that is not what we're talking about. I'm talking about the end result, how the game looks on a technical level. ABF does not understand that. You do not understand that, and it seems as though LL and DJ don't understand what this debate is about (which is excusable since you three just popped into this debate without knowing what it's about and simply made your own assumptions). ABF is like a flower trying to comprehend a Stanley Kubrick movie. It's simply impossible for him to understand what this debate it about. It is not about gameplay, it is not about art. It's about how good the WoW graphics engines are. And that answer is "not very good". END OF FREAKIN DEBATE.

Wrong. OB1, this "debate" is about how I (and, evidently, Smoke, LL, and DJ) all think what we've said about the graphics in WoW. You disagree and think that because they're technically not on top of the world they are bad. Evidently, you are a fool... as LL says, shouldn't at least THIS forum disagree with that incorrect assumption? Sad...

Look, OB1, you started this "debate" when I said that the game has great graphics -- essentially the same line as DJ, Smoke, and LL. Your idiotic arguement that because it doesn't have the best technical engine it doesn't have good graphics is so foolish that I still can't figure out how you manage to keep saying it.. and saying that you don't like Warcraft's art...

I know I've said it many times and you deny it but I just cannot see any way you could complain about the engine unless you disliked the art. It's just not possible.

I just felt like posting something since this is about WoW, and I know it isn't what you guys are going on about. But I did it anyway.

I'd say that's EXACTLY what the "debate" is about! The problem is OB1 has his own bizarre idea of what we're arguing that no one else on this forum can understand... THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE TECHNICAL QUALITY! IT'S ABOUT THE OVERALL LOOK! SO IT'S ARTISTIC AND NOT EASILY QUANTIFIABLE. SO? WHO CARES? THAT'S WHAT MATTERS IDIOT!

And as I said the technical quality isn't exactly way behind the field like you suggest. Quite the opposite.

Oh, OB1, 4-1 now, looks like you're a bit outnumbered on this one... can't bring out your standard "EVERYONE agrees with me and you are so dumb!"...