Dark Jaguar Wrote:And I must again ask if you ever finished the game, since from what you've said it would seem you have not.No, I didn't finish it, but if the game takes 30 hours before it gets really interesting, that's sad.
Quote:Anyway, I'll say something right now just for future knowledge. I don't read many story based books. Most of the books I read are fact filled books like on the human body or physics. Those are the kinds that interest me most generally.
Well there's your reason then. :)
Weltall Wrote:But Xenogears and Star Wars are somehow on different sides of the very fine line that seperates 'homages' from 'ripoffs'? Or are you just all about the double-standard?Well yes, there's a difference between an homage and a rip-off. An homage usually takes clichés and standards from the original material that inspired it while still keeping the story fresh and interesting, while a rip off just takes a bunch of ideas and slaps them together. Xenogears isn't really that bad, and the story is interesting for a video game, but I've seen most of it before. Another example of something that's borderline homage and rip-off is Kill Bill, which while being an entertaining movie which tributes a bunch of asian movies that Tarantino is fond of, it largely just takes a bunch of plot points and clichés and slaps them together. I've heard the second volume is better though...
Quote:Right. Zelda games don't have story, and I don't expect them to. However, Wind Waker had crappy gameplay also. The game wasn't even the slightest bit challenging. It was like OOT gameplay, simplified dramatically, with tons of long-ass backtracking and mindless roaming. It was a poor game with no story.Coming from someone who considers gameplay-handicapped games like Silent Hill and Xenogears to be great games, that's not saying much. :shakeit:
Quote:I didn't enjoy ED a whole lot, because the gameplay was okay, but it was also very repetitive and the storyline bordered on ridiculous at times. It could have been so much better if they had removed about half of the stupid chapters and expanded on the better ones. The gameplay was again, okay, but you're essentially using the same two weapons against the same three enemies the whole time. There were some wonderful concepts and ideas, but I felt they were not taken half as far as they could have been.You see, the difference between ED and SH is that ED actually has a little something called fun gameplay. It's not scary, but it has an interesting story with solid gameplay. It actually has fun combat, which was a first for the genre.
And, it wasn't the least bit scary.
Quote:There isn't a single videogame out there with a storyline to match Xenogears. There are several books, sure. But that's apples to oranges.You must not have ever played Grim Fandango or a hundred other graphic adventure games if you think Xenogears has an unparalleled story.
As for the rest?
Dark Jaguar Wrote:It was supposed to be scary but it was way too subtle.Don't you mean it wasn't subtle enough? ;)