Something for Weltall:

[A Black Falcon]

Its so depressing to think of all the people out there who agree with you, Weltall... so twisted...

All I'll say is that welfare, etc. has not been a failure in any way.

Yes, in today's America it is a better situation for poor people than has ever been true before in the history of the world. And much of that is because of the great social programs we have these days to help people who can't help themselves (for poor people, elderly, etc)... and you want to destroy that and try your best to put poor people back a hundred years.

And most of the failures we do have in our social programs (and there are plenty) are because the Republicans are unwilling to consider spending enough money to fund them... but many of them are definitely working. The only reason you can't see that is because you refuse to. Given that I know you will continue to refuse to consider looking at the truth, I see no reason to continue this arguement...