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Not 'absolutely nothing'... not much, sure, but not nothing. After all in both you have a first-person viewpoint and have to drive around shooting at enemies in a field. Sure its not all that similar, but that IS a similarity in its most basic sense.

Oh please, they're nothing alike.

As for car combat, the first one I could find mention of is 1993's Battle Wheels for Atari Lynx... not sure if there was one before that. As for Twisted Metal, when did the first one of those come out?

Both games came out after Mario Kart.

Its different. But I would call both action games, for sure.

And you claim that Battlezone is similar to Mario Kart.

Do I even need to respond to this? It's pointless to try and reason with you.

It really is pointless to argue over semantics like this...

There's a very simple answer to this, and I already said it.

Yeah, whether or not it was the first FPS depends on how you define FPS. If you go by gameplay, it wasn't.

Then Contra is the first FPS ever made since the fake 3D parts in that game were as convincing as Hovertank and Catacomb.

Its not low standards. Its what I like in racing games.

For instance... I know that F1 and NASCAR games are technically well done. However, to me, they are no fun at all... while Cruis'n, which I know is nowhere near as good as the best racing games, I find to be fun. Simple fun, and probably more fun when you don't play it that often (which is why i never bought one for n64 -- there are a lot of n64 games that are much more deserving of my money...), but fun nonetheless.

Oh, and I love how you take my list of great racing games, pull out a couple of them that you have issues with, and ignore the rest... because you know those are all good games, maybe?

You don't even like Beetle Adventure Racing, by far the best car racing game on the N64.