Mario Golf is out now

[A Black Falcon]

So that's the best thing you can up with? One has jumping and other doesn't??

Come on, if you've played these games you'd know how platformer vs straight shooter is a fairly big difference...

You refuse to admit that Mario Kart revolutionized the genre, which it did. And that's not just my own little opinion; it's an objective fact. Unless of course you want to use that stupid "well it would have happened anyhow" retort.

It changed the genre... but 'revolutionized'? Just too strong a term.

Which games?

I've already mentioned several track racing shooting games.

As for arena ones, as I said nothing exactly like it... I don't know exactly what had come out before that, really. Not multiplayer-wise. Of course there's stuff like Battlezone but that's different.

Uh, no they didn't. Before Wolfenstein 3D came out they made a bunch of 2D games (Commander Keen, Wolfenstein "2D", etc.) and a sorta-3D tank game.

http://www.idsoftware.com/games/vintage/...&version=6
http://www.idsoftware.com/games/vintage/...&version=6

http://www.3dgamers.com/games/catacomb3d/

Okay Hovertank isn't exactly a FPS but its very, very close.

Catacomb 3D, however, is the first FPS. Or at least it sure looks like it to me. It was before Wolf, that's for sure.

http://rinkworks.com/apogee/s/2.7.2.shtml

ID made Wolf 3D after Apogee saw Catacomb and wanted ID to make a shareware 3d game for them.

And there might have been other FPSes, not on the PC, before Hovertank... not sure about that. Sorry, Wolf 3d wasn't first. It was just the best in its genre at the time it came out.

That wasn't my point. My point was that N64 owners were hungry for regular car racers so they were willing to accept just about anynthing, although many N64 owners later looked back on the Rush games and saw how average they were (2049 excluded)

"Average"? Absolutely not! Rush 2 is far above average, that's for sure...