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Of course not. And of course kart racers are a unique subgenre of the racing genre. But so totally different that I'd say they are completely unique? No way. You race on a track with weapons. Sure the style and play is different but at heart its a weapons-based racer... different from in many ways but not completely other weapons-based racers like the ones I mentioned.

You could downplay every single game like that if you wanted to. Warcraft is just a game where you build stuff and fight. TIE Fighter is just a game where you fly around in space and shoot stuff. Gran Turismo is just a game where you drive around. See what I'm getting at? Mario Kart is very unique (or at least it was before it was copied a billion times), and when it came out there was nothing like it.

Oh, and try to show how Mario Kart is fundamentally different from the rest of the kart racing genre.

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Yeah, I thought so.

What the hell is wrong you??! THOSE GAMES ARE FRIGGIN' COPY-CATS OF MARIO KART!!!!

What happened to the real ABF? You sound exactly like nickdaddyg.

True. But they are in the same genre... and once cloned it just isn't unique anymore...

It's still in a league of its own.

So Mario Kart was the first racing game EVER with weapons?

That particular balance of weapons, yes. Try and prove me wrong.

First, read my expanded comments after the edits I made.

Now... I'm not changing my arguement. Those older psuedo 3d racers are pretty much all in the same genre as Cruis'n. BUT that isn't the only type of racing games, either then or now, so I am not changing anything to say that.

You see, ALL, MOST, and SOME are different.

ALMOST ALL psuedo-3d racing games are stylistically pretty similar to what Cruis'n is based on. Arcadey, unrealistic, simple... with that style of track design.

HOWEVER, there are other types on the SNES, such as topdown racers, so Cruis'n is NOT like ALL of them. Since not ALL SNES racers are psuedo-3d-arcade, of course. There are others like Micro Machines...

No, what you said was that if I liked those old SNES racers then I have to like the Cruisin' games because "they're the same", which is completey inane.