29th July 2003, 12:05 PM
Quote:Good grief, are you really that stupid??!! I mean really! Are you saying that the weapons are the only part of Mario Kart that seperate it from other racing games???
Of course not. And of course kart racers are a unique subgenre of the racing genre. But so totally different that I'd say they are completely unique? No way. You race on a track with weapons. Sure the style and play is different but at heart its a weapons-based racer... different from in many ways but not completely other weapons-based racers like the ones I mentioned.
Oh, and try to show how Mario Kart is fundamentally different from the rest of the kart racing genre.
...
Yeah, I thought so.
Quote:Yes, and those are all rip-offs of Mario Kart!! Every single cart-based racing game out there is a direct rip-off of Mario Kart.
True. But they are in the same genre... and once cloned it just isn't unique anymore...
Quote:Which is a rip-off of Wipeout, which in turn is a rip-off of F-Zero and Mario Kart (futuristic stuff from F-Zero and weapons from Mario Kart).
So Mario Kart was the first racing game EVER with weapons?

Quote:You're changing your argument yet again because you're losing. Classic ABF. You said "So you hate all SNES behind-the-car psuedo 3d racers? Because all Cruis'n really is is that genre, done better.", which implies that Cruisin' is just like all of those older games because they're in the same genre. You can't back away from what you wrote, ABF. I pay attention to what you say because you always try to worm your way out of an argument. You can't get it past me, so don't even try.
All of the Cruisin' games are very bad racers, but if you like them that's fine. You're crazy, but that's fine.
First, read my expanded comments after the edits I made.
Now... I'm not changing my arguement. Those older psuedo 3d racers are pretty much all in the same genre as Cruis'n. BUT that isn't the only type of racing games, either then or now, so I am not changing anything to say that.
You see, ALL, MOST, and SOME are different.
ALMOST ALL psuedo-3d racing games are stylistically pretty similar to what Cruis'n is based on. Arcadey, unrealistic, simple... with that style of track design.
HOWEVER, there are other types on the SNES, such as topdown racers, so Cruis'n is NOT like ALL of them. Since not ALL SNES racers are psuedo-3d-arcade, of course. There are others like Micro Machines...