Lawrence v. Texas: Discuss

[A Black Falcon]

No, I mean an employer can't fire a gay person for being gay if they don't know that the person is gay. Usually you cannot tell without asking. It's not like skin color.

So to avoid being fired gay people should live in fear of anyone ever discovering that they are gay (because they'll be fired and quite possibly kicked out of their apartment)? Yeah, that sounds just great!

Until their society collapsed and outsiders took over, yes.

Sure, like every civilization it eventually collapsed... but not before becoming one of the greatest in world history up to that time... in the sciences and in philosophy, for sure, they were amazing...

No, I am saying that moral relativism is what happens when there is no society. And there usually isn't much of a society when there is no functioning government or security.

I'm also saying that moral relativism should be vehemently discouraged in a strong society, and that those who advocate it usually do so in order to legally perpetuate activities that society finds harmful or distasteful. When society fails to set moral standards, moral standards cease to exist, and society itself follows.

Yeah, when given no laws people revert to a more violent state, and there generally is a reign of terror. That proves the need for laws, that's for sure.

But laws can go too far.