27th June 2003, 9:20 PM
(This post was last modified: 27th June 2003, 9:28 PM by Dark Jaguar.)
Well, I hate his beliefs, but not the 1 inch tall goron. You know, "hate the sin, not the sinner" and all that rot.
Darunia, I'm sure when you said that, it seemed logical to you, but you seem to miss the point. You seem to be confusing the people you hate for the people who actually did it. You say "Forgive and forget?", but WOW did you miss the point!
Listen closely, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PEOPLE WHO FOUGHT IN WORLD WAR 2 AT ALL! I'm not asking you to forgive THOSE people at all! They did something, that's not the issue! The issue is you are hating the DESCENDENTS for the actions of their elders! Your defense to THAT is "like father like son" which has to be the most trivial and stupid use of that phrase I've yet seen. Like father like son? For the love of...
And then you point out EXACTLY why you are wrong in your own defense. You say "sure not ALL arabs think like that, but is that any reason to like them?". First off, we are actually asking you to consider them just like any other people, an unknown, not to out and out like them (unless like is the standard feeling you have for humans in general, which tends to be my policy, though I don't live up to it as often as I'd like). Second off, YES, since not ALL of them are like that, that is EXACTLY why you should think of them all as humans, except for an unnamed and unspecific statement of "except the terrorists". I know that you have no idea which one is which, and that means there's nothing you can do except treat them all innocent until prooven guilty, and that scares you because what if you accidently treated the terrorists among them like normal people and they kill everyone or something. But welcome to the world where people try to be all nice-like! Instead of creating a false sense of security by thinking you will eliminate the threat of befriending a terrorist if you hate all the people from those terrorist's region of origin, accept that there's no way to really know what's what and you are always going to be in unknown danger and not know who your real friends and enemies are, and step into the light of reality. Accept that when it comes to human relationships, it's all blind faith, and it's a beautiful thing when someone trusts you, and despite not really knowing, they "know".
Darunia, I'm sure when you said that, it seemed logical to you, but you seem to miss the point. You seem to be confusing the people you hate for the people who actually did it. You say "Forgive and forget?", but WOW did you miss the point!
Listen closely, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PEOPLE WHO FOUGHT IN WORLD WAR 2 AT ALL! I'm not asking you to forgive THOSE people at all! They did something, that's not the issue! The issue is you are hating the DESCENDENTS for the actions of their elders! Your defense to THAT is "like father like son" which has to be the most trivial and stupid use of that phrase I've yet seen. Like father like son? For the love of...
And then you point out EXACTLY why you are wrong in your own defense. You say "sure not ALL arabs think like that, but is that any reason to like them?". First off, we are actually asking you to consider them just like any other people, an unknown, not to out and out like them (unless like is the standard feeling you have for humans in general, which tends to be my policy, though I don't live up to it as often as I'd like). Second off, YES, since not ALL of them are like that, that is EXACTLY why you should think of them all as humans, except for an unnamed and unspecific statement of "except the terrorists". I know that you have no idea which one is which, and that means there's nothing you can do except treat them all innocent until prooven guilty, and that scares you because what if you accidently treated the terrorists among them like normal people and they kill everyone or something. But welcome to the world where people try to be all nice-like! Instead of creating a false sense of security by thinking you will eliminate the threat of befriending a terrorist if you hate all the people from those terrorist's region of origin, accept that there's no way to really know what's what and you are always going to be in unknown danger and not know who your real friends and enemies are, and step into the light of reality. Accept that when it comes to human relationships, it's all blind faith, and it's a beautiful thing when someone trusts you, and despite not really knowing, they "know".
"On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." ~ Charles Babbage (1791-1871)