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    26th July 2004, 12:50 PM
    Quote:Have you read the article, OB1? It's not even pro-Doom 3... just a worthwhile read...

    Yeah I know, I read some of it. The points are ridiculous though.

    Quote:I don't always agree with them. But I trust that most of the time I'll be able to get good information out of the review and the score that will tell me if I would like the game.

    PC Gamer gives just about every half-decent shooter an 80% or higher. They score that genre way too high.

    Quote:When it came out it was a massive, massive step forward in the genre. Probably revolutionary. Did you hate it back when it came out as well? Okay, so I didn't play it back then, but I've said plenty of times that I'm not the best person to be talking about FPSes... And I certainly heard about it and saw it. Games generally don't get buzz like that and legions of devoted hardcore fans without something there worth going back to again and again... and just graphics won't do that.

    I only liked it for the graphics, and it was nowhere near revolutionary. The gameplay had been done before in Wolfenstein 3D and a few other earlier FPSs. It just looked good.

    Quote:It changed to that around the time of the Doom release, yes, but in the first Keen trilogy it's capitalized and they say that it doesn't stand for anything... I recall one place where they say something about 'we like to think it stands for 'In Demand'' or something like that...

    I've only ever heard them say "id", and that's how it's called today so that's the name.

    Quote:Oh, Wolfenstein is certainly remembered as well. First great first-person shooter. But Doom went way beyond it... multiplayer, more weapons, enemies, more realistic looking, multiple height levels, etc, etc... Doom blew away Wolf and made the FPS super popular in a way that Wolf only hinted at. That's why it's so well known and remembered.

    Doom didn't play very differently from Wolfenstein 3D, it just looked better and was a bit faster. Go back and play both games.

    Quote:I'd deny it if you tried to say that there isn't enough good games for someone to play on PC. Because that's absurdly false. PC has, if you like the genres, many more games than consoles that you can sink untold hours into... and it has genres that consoles simply cannot do well, like military simulations (mostly planes, but there are some of tanks, submarines, etc), strategy games, graphic adventures, etc...

    Consoles might get more releases on the shelves. But when you factor in the fact that there is so much stuff available on the web (and I mean legally) for PC that advantage gets smaller all the time...

    There aren't nearly as many incredibly good PC titles as there are console ones. Unless you really love flight sims.
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