10th October 2009, 1:00 PM
Weltall Wrote:I'm willing to bet that the people who actually risk their lives and security every day to make real inroads for world peace probably agree with you!
Which people do you mean there? The hundred thousand plus Iraqis dead because of Bush? The Middle East situation, where peace efforts stalled because of Bush administration inattention? Afghanistan, where Obama now has to make a very, very difficult choice because of how horribly the Bush administration managed it?
And how about how he ran the Constitution into the ground in his efforts to get around, undermine, and ruin it... and he treated the UN and our European allies exactly the same way. And you wonder why they'd be so overjoyed to see him gone? Honestly?
The point is, Bush was horrible for our national security. Invading Iraq made things worse, not better. Angering Europe made it harder to get things done, not easier. Ignoring the Israel/Palestine issue and the UN were not exactly helpful decisions. And mostly ignoring Afghanistan was a major mistake. Obama is trying to change all of those things, and to the international community, obviously, just the change in tone coming from the the US now is such a huge relief that the Nobel committee thought Obama was worthy of this.
As I said I agree that he probably hasn't deserved it yet, but I can see why they'd do it for sure.
Fittisize Wrote:This whole situation is hilarious. I'm sure it came as much as a surprise to him as it did to everybody else - Obama even said he didn't deserve it. But, well, he has the award now, there's not really much anybody can do about it. It's not like he can give it back or anything. The best we can do is point out how curious it is that a group of Communists/Socialists gave the award to a fellow Communist/Socialist. Ha ha
Indeed... he would have had to be nominated eleven days after taking office in January. As a result this couldn't be based on anything he has done since getting elected, just the fact that Bush is gone and that America's tone internationally is so much better now.