6th June 2009, 1:01 PM
(This post was last modified: 6th June 2009, 1:18 PM by alien space marine.)
The way I see it, Everything that came after T-2 is up to the individual fan to decide whither or not its canon,If you Don't like t-3 and 4, Well you got the television series parallel continuity.
Or you can make up your own like Lazy just did, here is my take on things.
What if Sarah Conner was not the mother of the original John Conner? In the first alphaverse that existed before the cycle of time paradoxes began.
Lets say that in the first unaltered Alphaverse, Judgment day happens in 2003 , Cyberdyne and the defense department co create Skynet on their own without the help of the original T-101 edoskeleton and machinery.
Kyle Reese is born in 1998, By 2030 the war nears its end thanks to a crucial victory lead by Colonel John Albert Conner whose forces destroy the central complex of Skynet but he soon dies later of mortal wounds sustained in the siege, Skynet laboratory just completes its time displacement device when the war is more or less a lost cause and in a last ditch effort to preserve itself skynet sends the T-101 back in time to eliminate Colonel Albert Conner from history in the hopes that it could create a new universe were it was victorious rather then accept total defeat.
Skynet is forced to hastily rush its chrononautical plans to deploy before its ready because the resistance is already charging the gate of the time lab, The Terminator is sent a year before the desired date of 1984.
Both the resistance and skynet don't know where Colonel Albert Conner's mother's residence was in 1984 just that she gave birth to John that year and lived in LA.
This sets into motion the creation of the divergent strings in time creating a new universe or timeframe I will call the beta-verse, As it is impossible to rewrite history you can only make new turn off points on the temporal highway, Skynet knows this but the resistance is clueless about quantum psysics and mistakenly believe their history is in jeopardy so they send Lieutenant Kyle Reese to pursue the terminator sent into the past string of history.
The Terminator is ordered to kill every Sarah Conner in the phone book in 1983 , It succeeds in killing the alphaverse Colonel Albert Conner's mother preventing his existence but both Reese and the Terminator are not aware of that.
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That clip shows the original John albert Conner's mother being killed in the Gamma-verse
Reese tracks down a another Sarah Conner who is only a teenager thinking it was the mother of his John Conner, They fall in love and defeat the Terminator, This alpha-verse Kyle Reese survives and marries Beta-Sarah raising their child as the new "John" Conner Reese as Kyle lives to mentor him with all the know how of a future solder making the Beta-John a more formidable enemy then Colonel John.A.Conner ever was in Kyle's home universe.
Like in the first film (gamma-verse) the Terminators edoskeleton is discovered by Cyberdyne as a result research progresses faster and judgment day now happens in 1997 sooner then before.
Kyle Reese this time is alive to dissuade Sarah from crusading against Cyberdyne, She never gets institutionalized as a result.
The media announces sky net activation an hour before the fact in a press conference tipping off Kyle and Sarah, Who Rush to a fall out shelter only to be killed in a car crash just hours before judgment day , General Brewsters convey comes across the Reese familie's shattered vehicle and pulls the young John Conner from the wreckage and evacuates him along with the generals family to the underground base.
Beta-Skynet is defeated as before in the alpha-verse except now a year earlier in 2029 under different circumstances Skynet now pulls more aces out of its sleeve , Beta-Skynet sends a data package loaded with information to itself in 2015, Then afterward sends the T-101 to 1984 instead of 1983 , beta future-Kyle now knows what Sarah Conner looks like thanks to the photograph betaverse-John Conner had with him that survived judgment day.
This timeframe follows the events of the first movie more closely creating the gamma verse.
Kyle dies this time around , So now Sarah is forced to raise and rear John on her own. She is institutionalized but manages to escape and abduct JC from his foster home and go hiding in south America until 1997 , Where Sarah finds General Brewster and attempts to thwart judgment day but is killed in a shoot out at the army base, General Brewster feels pity for John and cares for him as a temporary foster parent in his household where he falls in love with Kate. They survive judgment day and General Brewster becomes head of the resistance and later recruits John into his ranks when he reaches 17.
Gamma-verse Skynet received the data pack sent to itself by beta-verse skynet, This Skynet now has all the knowledge of its past incarnation.
It now has research more advance then before and succeeds in creating A new series of Terminators superior to any from the previous timeframes the "T-1000's". It knows its counterpart failed to eliminate John Connor in 1984,In 2025 It plots this time to kill him as a child in 1995 sending the T-1000 model back through time as insurance investment in case it fails to win again, The resistance hackers learn of this scheme and so John Conner now the head of the resistance reprograms a captured T-101 to protect his younger self in the past, The Time displacement prototype is then destroyed forcing skynet to rebuild it.
The Gamma timeframe continues
John Conner is assassinated a day before the final push on the central complex by a T-101 , The Terminator is neutralized locked and bound at the Resistance HQ
Colonel Barnes is assigned to besiege the central complex with his forces in 2029 and but the plan is still the handiwork of JC,The complex is blown to kingdom come.
Skynet in its last throes activates its rebuilt TDD,For good measure a probe filled with data is sent as a Christmas gift to itself in 2017,T-1000X is also sent to 2003 with adjustable mission parameters one being to reverse SN fortunes in the war by eliminating Kate Brewster and her father also other resistance leaders, Its also programed to kill JC in anticipation of a potential failure by T-1000 in 1995.
Then finally Skynet sends a T-101 back to 1984 , Knowing that it will likely fail but SN believes its necessary for its existence.
Barnes and Kate Conner secure the Time lab, Repair the T-101 that assassinated John conner the day before and send it to 2003 to intercept TX,It was Programed to protect Kate and John.
The Delta-verse the film universe
watch the movies
Or you can make up your own like Lazy just did, here is my take on things.
What if Sarah Conner was not the mother of the original John Conner? In the first alphaverse that existed before the cycle of time paradoxes began.
Lets say that in the first unaltered Alphaverse, Judgment day happens in 2003 , Cyberdyne and the defense department co create Skynet on their own without the help of the original T-101 edoskeleton and machinery.
Kyle Reese is born in 1998, By 2030 the war nears its end thanks to a crucial victory lead by Colonel John Albert Conner whose forces destroy the central complex of Skynet but he soon dies later of mortal wounds sustained in the siege, Skynet laboratory just completes its time displacement device when the war is more or less a lost cause and in a last ditch effort to preserve itself skynet sends the T-101 back in time to eliminate Colonel Albert Conner from history in the hopes that it could create a new universe were it was victorious rather then accept total defeat.
Skynet is forced to hastily rush its chrononautical plans to deploy before its ready because the resistance is already charging the gate of the time lab, The Terminator is sent a year before the desired date of 1984.
Both the resistance and skynet don't know where Colonel Albert Conner's mother's residence was in 1984 just that she gave birth to John that year and lived in LA.
This sets into motion the creation of the divergent strings in time creating a new universe or timeframe I will call the beta-verse, As it is impossible to rewrite history you can only make new turn off points on the temporal highway, Skynet knows this but the resistance is clueless about quantum psysics and mistakenly believe their history is in jeopardy so they send Lieutenant Kyle Reese to pursue the terminator sent into the past string of history.
The Terminator is ordered to kill every Sarah Conner in the phone book in 1983 , It succeeds in killing the alphaverse Colonel Albert Conner's mother preventing his existence but both Reese and the Terminator are not aware of that.
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That clip shows the original John albert Conner's mother being killed in the Gamma-verse
Reese tracks down a another Sarah Conner who is only a teenager thinking it was the mother of his John Conner, They fall in love and defeat the Terminator, This alpha-verse Kyle Reese survives and marries Beta-Sarah raising their child as the new "John" Conner Reese as Kyle lives to mentor him with all the know how of a future solder making the Beta-John a more formidable enemy then Colonel John.A.Conner ever was in Kyle's home universe.
Like in the first film (gamma-verse) the Terminators edoskeleton is discovered by Cyberdyne as a result research progresses faster and judgment day now happens in 1997 sooner then before.
Kyle Reese this time is alive to dissuade Sarah from crusading against Cyberdyne, She never gets institutionalized as a result.
The media announces sky net activation an hour before the fact in a press conference tipping off Kyle and Sarah, Who Rush to a fall out shelter only to be killed in a car crash just hours before judgment day , General Brewsters convey comes across the Reese familie's shattered vehicle and pulls the young John Conner from the wreckage and evacuates him along with the generals family to the underground base.
Beta-Skynet is defeated as before in the alpha-verse except now a year earlier in 2029 under different circumstances Skynet now pulls more aces out of its sleeve , Beta-Skynet sends a data package loaded with information to itself in 2015, Then afterward sends the T-101 to 1984 instead of 1983 , beta future-Kyle now knows what Sarah Conner looks like thanks to the photograph betaverse-John Conner had with him that survived judgment day.
This timeframe follows the events of the first movie more closely creating the gamma verse.
Kyle dies this time around , So now Sarah is forced to raise and rear John on her own. She is institutionalized but manages to escape and abduct JC from his foster home and go hiding in south America until 1997 , Where Sarah finds General Brewster and attempts to thwart judgment day but is killed in a shoot out at the army base, General Brewster feels pity for John and cares for him as a temporary foster parent in his household where he falls in love with Kate. They survive judgment day and General Brewster becomes head of the resistance and later recruits John into his ranks when he reaches 17.
Gamma-verse Skynet received the data pack sent to itself by beta-verse skynet, This Skynet now has all the knowledge of its past incarnation.
It now has research more advance then before and succeeds in creating A new series of Terminators superior to any from the previous timeframes the "T-1000's". It knows its counterpart failed to eliminate John Connor in 1984,In 2025 It plots this time to kill him as a child in 1995 sending the T-1000 model back through time as insurance investment in case it fails to win again, The resistance hackers learn of this scheme and so John Conner now the head of the resistance reprograms a captured T-101 to protect his younger self in the past, The Time displacement prototype is then destroyed forcing skynet to rebuild it.
The Gamma timeframe continues
John Conner is assassinated a day before the final push on the central complex by a T-101 , The Terminator is neutralized locked and bound at the Resistance HQ
Colonel Barnes is assigned to besiege the central complex with his forces in 2029 and but the plan is still the handiwork of JC,The complex is blown to kingdom come.
Skynet in its last throes activates its rebuilt TDD,For good measure a probe filled with data is sent as a Christmas gift to itself in 2017,T-1000X is also sent to 2003 with adjustable mission parameters one being to reverse SN fortunes in the war by eliminating Kate Brewster and her father also other resistance leaders, Its also programed to kill JC in anticipation of a potential failure by T-1000 in 1995.
Then finally Skynet sends a T-101 back to 1984 , Knowing that it will likely fail but SN believes its necessary for its existence.
Barnes and Kate Conner secure the Time lab, Repair the T-101 that assassinated John conner the day before and send it to 2003 to intercept TX,It was Programed to protect Kate and John.
The Delta-verse the film universe
watch the movies