18th April 2003, 9:21 AM
Quote:Originally posted by A Black Falcon
Do you think Nintendo would be better off if they had a online network or if they didn't?
Have you never played online games or something? I can't think of much else that would defend your position...
I think they would be a little better off.
But it's not "necessary".
I play Counter-Strike every night.
Quote:There was a hardware jump! I don't want to make the effort it'd take to look up sales figures somewhere, but there was one!
Well you're gonna need to provide links, because I don't see one.
Quote:Also it can't just be measured by the immediate sales jump. That is NOT the whole story. You also must look at the boost to public opinion and how it'll (eventually) make money on subscription fees... Nintendo is acting like they won't do this because they see no immediate profits.
As I've said a dozen times, looking at it that way is WRONG... and shows they have no clue about online gaming. If they did they wouldn't be discussing how profits seem elusive since THATS NOT THE POINT!
Yet you seem to defend them... I seriously doubt, as a result, you have much online gaming experience... because the amount of stock it gives the company in gamers' eyes, and how much it helps them in future sales of games, CAN'T be qualified that easily!
In the long-term, if Nintendo were to launch a major online plan on the level of Sony or Microsoft, they would struggle to reach 1.5 million by the end of the GCN's life-span. Particularly if they were to plan on making money through subscriptions.
Again, I think you're over-estimating just how many people would take the GameCube online. However, you do bring up a good point that if they were to put MAJOR effort into making an online infrastructure with major support, it could be successful (which I never disputed). However, this isn't "necessary", as I still doubt just how many NEW gamers would be attracted specifically by the online plan.
I guess the only way we could really make any sort of 'accurate' guess, would be to analyze and scrutinize Sony's and XBox's online sales.
Quote:Cube sales passed X-Box sales, at least for a while. I remember hearing that.
Hmm.. I think that was only for a week? Not sure.
Quote:You REALLY think X-Box would be doing as well as it is without Live? Absolutely not! PS2, probably... but not X-Box.
XBox would be going exactly the same. It's only sold 350,000 XBL! kits for crying out loud.
Quote:Just not true. Um, how can you possibly say that adding online WOULDN'T affect sales of those games? That makes no sense! None!
I didn't say it wouldn't effect the sales of the games (which isn't even the arguement here), but that it wouldn't effect them as much as you might think.
Quote:Well, what about the 3 we've already mentioned?
Which ones? I see Ghost Recon...?
If i had a dollar for every time i ran out of hair in the middle of a spoon making contest id only eat your children with a side of slaw and THOSE ARENT PILLOWS!!