Nintendo sucks

[A Black Falcon]

Do you think Nintendo would be better off if they had a online network or if they didn't?

Have you never played online games or something? I can't think of much else that would defend your position...

Hasn't helped hardware sales. The people who bought it originally already owned an XBox presumably. And since the first month, it's sales have slowed down quite a lot. Although, it's hard to tell. For all we know, EVERYONE who bought XBL! were just waiting for the XBox to go online before buying one.

There was a hardware jump! I don't want to make the effort it'd take to look up sales figures somewhere, but there was one!

Also it can't just be measured by the immediate sales jump. That is NOT the whole story. You also must look at the boost to public opinion and how it'll (eventually) make money on subscription fees... Nintendo is acting like they won't do this because they see no immediate profits.

As I've said a dozen times, looking at it that way is WRONG... and shows they have no clue about online gaming. If they did they wouldn't be discussing how profits seem elusive since THATS NOT THE POINT!

Yet you seem to defend them... I seriously doubt, as a result, you have much online gaming experience... because the amount of stock it gives the company in gamers' eyes, and how much it helps them in future sales of games, CAN'T be qualified that easily!

Well, we'll wait for sales figures to see Zelda's impact on the market. I'm guessing you'll see the GCN come close to the XBox (though not overtake it), then for sales to go back to normal. At least in America.

Cube sales passed X-Box sales, at least for a while. I remember hearing that.

The majority of people that would end up taking the GCN online would be those who already own it. Just like those who have taken their PS2's online. Just like those who have taken their XBox's online.

You REALLY think X-Box would be doing as well as it is without Live? Absolutely not! PS2, probably... but not X-Box.

Their impact on the GCN's hardware sales would be minimal. The games will already be selling on their offline mode alone, which again, I would hazard a guess at most people who want to take the games online would also want to play it offline, so it's sales might be somewhat higher - but not in the area of SOCOM: US Navy seals, which was made for online play (not offline) and was hyped as Sony's flagship online title.

F-Zero just needs marketting behind it, online or offline. It deserves to sell much better than it did on the N64.

Just not true. Um, how can you possibly say that adding online WOULDN'T affect sales of those games? That makes no sense! None! How you can't see that adding online would greatly help sales and give Nintendo a LOT more people who accept their console as a solid all-around platform is bizarre.

Like what?

Well, what about the 3 we've already mentioned?