Nintendo sucks

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Have you even heard of Madden? It's one of the most popular franchises in the world. And the rest of the games had massive hype behind them.

Or hell, how about Tony Hawk 3 and 4? Because Tony Hawk isn't a popular franchise either, is it?

I won't bring up Final Fantasy, though. It's weighed down by a HDD. And obviously isn't going to increase the PS2's sales.

The same people who buy Madden every year buy it over and over again no matter what, and Tony Hawk was online only on the PS2, and it was a very plain online mode.

No, it wouldn't see a sizable increase. The games are going to sell about a million by themselves. The people that would buy Mario Kart online are the same people who would buy Mario Kart offline.

Correction: Die-hard Nintendo fans will buy Mario Kart no matter what; fence-sitters will be forced to buy a Gamecube with great online games such as Mario Kart and F-Zero.

Well, it's bogged down by a subscription. And because.. why buy it for PS2 if it's on PC. So I really shouldn't have brought it up

It just doesn't look good enough, I suppose. Not all PS2 owners have PCs, BTW.

Some games, sure. SOCOM would have sold like shit, because it was made for online play.

But then look at a game like Ghost Recon, which is selling extremely well on both XBox and PS2... and it's not even online in the PS2 version. Tony Hawk and Madden would have sold millions regardless (as Tony Hawk 3 showed - most didn't bother to take it online)

Ghost Recon is selling much better on the X-Box than it is on the PS2, and that's with the PS2's enourmous installed userbase.

Sky rocketted? I'm sure Microsoft are basking in the glory of their XBox selling less than the PSOne this week. Despite the XBox being online and the PSOne not And could you get the exact sales figures and dates for when XBox outsold the GCN? I thought the only time it outsold the GCN was alongside Dead or Alive Volleyball (when GCN was in a major slump).

Also, XBL! Launched around the same time as DoA:XVB. Coincidence?

The X-Box is extremely unpopular in Japan, but it did get a huge spike in sales when X-Box Live launched (I'm not gonna look for a link now--find it yourself), and X-Box Live start kits sold extremely well.

Now whose the one who hasn't done research? XBox sales increased? Wow.. that wouldn't have anything to do with Christmas would it? What were the sales like after Christmas? XBL! itself has sold relatively well, but with only 350,000 of them sold, do you really think that it's effected the XBox's sales at all? Don't you think that perhaps the 6million XBox owners already might have snapped up the vast majority of those 350,000?

X-Box Live launched before the Christman buying rush, and you have to take into consideration that a very small percentage of Americans have broadband internet connections, yet X-Box Live sold as much as Metroid Prime in November,