18th June 2003, 10:56 AM
Quote:What, exactly, do those prove?
First, which level are those top two shots from? I don't remember...
Next, with the two from Bob-Omb and the two from Whomp's level you just proved my point. Same with the ice level shot. Well... you just proved my point with shots that try to deny that I'm right as much as possible. Doesn't work though... those levels still clearly have dramatic texturing differences.
Good God man, you're absolutely insane! Those are the same fucking textures!
Quote:Taking two shots of the one tiny area with grass in the Whomp's Fortress doesn't change that taht is all the grass in the whole level. As opposed to Bob-Omb where its almost all grass.
Taking a shot of the one stone wall in Bob-Omb doesn't change the fact that that's the only big stone area in the level. As opposed to Whomp where its almost all stone/brick.
Well of course the ratio of stone vs. grass isn't going to be the exact same with each level, but what the screenshots prove is that they most definitely do share the same theme. I'm just in total shock that you're trying to deny this. Unbelievable.
Quote:One final thing. I'm still confused about what your point is... because you aren't making much sense if its 'they use the same textures in large areas of each level'.
The only way you can tell the theme of each level is by how it looks (which seems to be a concept far beyond your comprehension), and how it looks is defined by the textures and other "props" placed in each level.
Quote:And one last thing. How exactly does this relate to the conversation? So Whomp has a grass court. And Bob-Omb Battlefield has a small stone wall. So? Its not like that's relevant at all to my point, which is about the overall theme and level design!
The point is that the damn levels share the same theme! It's just funny to see you try to deny it.
Quote:Are you saying that (other than the snow and water levels, which differ in level design but not theme) some levels repeat some textures in a secondary way that other levels have as a primary theme? Sure. True. Though when the textures you are complaining about seem to be grass, stone, and dirt, I've got to wonder, given how I'd expect those in most any environment... except snow, which has its own.
So you're saying that both snow levels are completely unique, even though they share the same theme and the same textures??!! And just a second ago you said that the textures are completely unique! What happened to that argument? Oh that's right, you change your argument whenever you start losing a debate, just like you did in the gay debate thread. What the hell is wrong with you??!! I seriously cannot believe how stupid you've become.
Quote:Major themes... snow, water, sky, castle, field, clock, ghost house, snow, lava, desert, and those Bowser levels. That's 11, all different. Plus two, for the other snow and water levels.
You count snow twice?? Again, what the fuck is wrong with you??!! There is no castle theme because there are no castle levels. The same goes for the Bowser mini-levels. Those are not full levels. So the themes in the game are snow, water, sky, "outdoor generic", clock, ghost house, lava, and desert. So that's eight total themes.
Quote:What were the other two levels (to make 15 total)?
Tall Tall Mountain. Repeats many grass/dirt/stone textures. In a new level format, and with some new stuff.
Tiny/Huge Island. Again, repeats the grass/dirt textures (and some stone) with some new themes and a unique design.
Those are the same themes! The levels in Mario Sunshine look much more different from each other than the levels I've mentioned in Mario 64, even though they share the same theme. But by going with your logic each and every level in Sunshine should be considered as a totally different theme because they're not 100% identical to each other.
Quote:So you can legitimately say that in that game 3 levels share significant themes and one other shares some themes with each of those three (that last one is the Whomp's Fortress). And there are two pairs of similar themed levels... though only to a point (water and ice). The ice ones are admittedly similar in textures, but the two water ones are quite different -- one has just a lake while the other has the changable water level, a town, etc... makes for some major texture additions (from the first water level, anyway).
That's three (or debatably four) vs. EVERY SINGLE LEVEL in SMS that share the same theme. Hmm.
Ok, that's it. I quit. You've reached a level of complete and total idiocy that far surpasses anyone else in the history of the board, even nickdaddyg. Arguing with you will go nowhere because no matter how much evidence is mounted against you, you will never admit defeat. You've lost all touch with logic and reason, and I'm just getting fucking tired of this. In the past it was fun to debate you because at least you had a sense of reason and usually gave a good argument, but now it's just come down to you completely making shit up, thinking that I'm stupid enough to fall for it.