6th October 2019, 6:46 AM
I wasn't saying Bernie's poll data is rising drastically, it's rising a lot slower than Warren's right now. I'm just pointing out Nate Silver's shifting of the goal posts.
As far as impeachment, this is the dem's game to lose right now, literally. THEY are in full control of whether or not he's impeached. Removed from office? No that's the senate, and they will not under any circumstances be the party who's candidate is the first in US history to be removed from office. It won't happen, period.
All they need to do is vote to impeach him, right now, and be done with it. They could have done it the day they took control of congress. The emuluments clause violation would have been enough. The Mueller report would have been enough. The violation of international treaties and illegal treatment of refugees would have been enough. Don't kid yourself ABF. The dems aren't doing this because they want to, they are doing it because they feel politically forced into a corner. The old guard in the dems are terrified because they remember what happened to Clinton, as though that defines what impeachment is like, as though we have anywhere near a big enough sample size to say what the political consequences of impeachment are.
The dems are making big mistakes. They seem to have narrowed the scope of their investigation to JUST the Ukraine scandel. I think this is a mistake. What if the repubs have some amazing defense they pull out at the last second and the Ukraine scandel fizzles in the public mind? No, they need to focus on the entirety of Trump's failings, from the start to finish. Gish gallop it! Smash the public discourse with a running scoreboard of all his failings rushed together. If they intend to sway public opinion enough to get the republicans to actually remove him from office, they can't hold back there.
They also seem too scared to actually use the full weight of their authority. They held two witnesses in contempt of congress already, but nothing happened! Arrest them! Deputize some police and put them in jail! That's a power granted to congress, and if they fail to exercise it, they risk being seen as powerless. They're so scared of looking like authoritarians themselves that they aren't doing what they have every right, and necessity, to do. Democrats need to STOP playing by the republican's narrative rulebook. It's been their weakness for decades. Just do what needs doing, and explain why it needed to be done. Of course the republicans will cry foul, but they ALREADY ARE! They are already claiming it's a coup de ta. There's no point restraining themselves now.
They also need to go after Pence. Oh no, that's too much to chew on all at once! Screw that. Do it! It needs to be done. He's guilty here too, and has been incriminated doing the same illegal activity as Trump. Will people see it as a play to get Nanci Pelosi in power? Of course the republicans will spin it that way, but they already ARE making that claim when it's just Trump! Coup, remember? So, go all in!
The dems need to understand that there are no half measures here. Either they go in all the way, or they should never have started impeachment proceedings. Any attempt to hold back will backfire and make it look like the Dems have no real case. This is a train, and there's no getting off the tracks. Do it, don't hesitate.
As far as impeachment, this is the dem's game to lose right now, literally. THEY are in full control of whether or not he's impeached. Removed from office? No that's the senate, and they will not under any circumstances be the party who's candidate is the first in US history to be removed from office. It won't happen, period.
All they need to do is vote to impeach him, right now, and be done with it. They could have done it the day they took control of congress. The emuluments clause violation would have been enough. The Mueller report would have been enough. The violation of international treaties and illegal treatment of refugees would have been enough. Don't kid yourself ABF. The dems aren't doing this because they want to, they are doing it because they feel politically forced into a corner. The old guard in the dems are terrified because they remember what happened to Clinton, as though that defines what impeachment is like, as though we have anywhere near a big enough sample size to say what the political consequences of impeachment are.
The dems are making big mistakes. They seem to have narrowed the scope of their investigation to JUST the Ukraine scandel. I think this is a mistake. What if the repubs have some amazing defense they pull out at the last second and the Ukraine scandel fizzles in the public mind? No, they need to focus on the entirety of Trump's failings, from the start to finish. Gish gallop it! Smash the public discourse with a running scoreboard of all his failings rushed together. If they intend to sway public opinion enough to get the republicans to actually remove him from office, they can't hold back there.
They also seem too scared to actually use the full weight of their authority. They held two witnesses in contempt of congress already, but nothing happened! Arrest them! Deputize some police and put them in jail! That's a power granted to congress, and if they fail to exercise it, they risk being seen as powerless. They're so scared of looking like authoritarians themselves that they aren't doing what they have every right, and necessity, to do. Democrats need to STOP playing by the republican's narrative rulebook. It's been their weakness for decades. Just do what needs doing, and explain why it needed to be done. Of course the republicans will cry foul, but they ALREADY ARE! They are already claiming it's a coup de ta. There's no point restraining themselves now.
They also need to go after Pence. Oh no, that's too much to chew on all at once! Screw that. Do it! It needs to be done. He's guilty here too, and has been incriminated doing the same illegal activity as Trump. Will people see it as a play to get Nanci Pelosi in power? Of course the republicans will spin it that way, but they already ARE making that claim when it's just Trump! Coup, remember? So, go all in!
The dems need to understand that there are no half measures here. Either they go in all the way, or they should never have started impeachment proceedings. Any attempt to hold back will backfire and make it look like the Dems have no real case. This is a train, and there's no getting off the tracks. Do it, don't hesitate.
"On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." ~ Charles Babbage (1791-1871)