19th July 2018, 10:24 PM
(This post was last modified: 20th July 2018, 8:29 PM by A Black Falcon.)
Of course the Republican Party and its elected officials should stand up to Trump; he's a fascist trying to boost America's enemies, after all. But a good 30-plus percent of Americans still support him, and each new outrage only peels a few off of his support numbers. Anyone who opposes him in that party loses their next primary to a pro-Trump opponent. So, Republican elected officials help Trump destroy America and its standing in the world not because they actually support everything he says, but because they're too scared of their base to do otherwise. And they are right that they would lose -- most vocal Trump opponents in the Republican Party who didn't resign or decide to not run for re-election have lost.
I understand why you hate this, it's a really toxic attitude which is damaging the nation, but what is the alternative? Republican officials growing a spine would be an amazing thing, but seriously, what do you do when such a huge number of people are supporting someone so horrible? It's an incredibly bad situation. Get Republican officials to oppose Trump, then he probably still stays in power and those people lose. Have them continue to pretend to support him, and he stays in power of course. Unless the Republican voting base actually turns on Trump, neither them saying something or not doing so really ends up in the outcome we need. Now, by not speaking up Republican elected officials do probably make things even worse, but just by looking at what's happened to every Trump critic in that party shows why most of the rest aren't saying anything. Maybe if, somehow, like, the whole Congress turned against Trump it would matter. Maybe you could reach a tipping point there that would actually affect poll numbers. But would it do that, or would it just rededicate Trump's huge and horrendous base to turn out the Washington incumbents in favor of a whole new wave of Trumpist candidates?
Seriously, it really seems like their party is just too compromised to be salvageable. Really, when such a huge percentage of the American people are supporting Trump, ultimately the blame lies with them, Trump's supporters. I do not understand the appeal of that lying traitor, but a LOT of people now are devoted to him and it is wrecking America.
Really the only solution I can see is for Democrats to win big in elections, but that requires actual elections that are not rigged and for enough Democratic voters to actually show up to win, so.. we'll see if that happens. I am hopeful but it could go either way.
As for the Senate confirmation hearing for Kavanaugh, though, I am strongly opposed to him, but again, unless you can flip some Republicans, it doesn't matter what the centrist Democrats do in the final vote. I'd say try to get them to hold off on their votes until we know how all the Republicans are voting...
I understand why you hate this, it's a really toxic attitude which is damaging the nation, but what is the alternative? Republican officials growing a spine would be an amazing thing, but seriously, what do you do when such a huge number of people are supporting someone so horrible? It's an incredibly bad situation. Get Republican officials to oppose Trump, then he probably still stays in power and those people lose. Have them continue to pretend to support him, and he stays in power of course. Unless the Republican voting base actually turns on Trump, neither them saying something or not doing so really ends up in the outcome we need. Now, by not speaking up Republican elected officials do probably make things even worse, but just by looking at what's happened to every Trump critic in that party shows why most of the rest aren't saying anything. Maybe if, somehow, like, the whole Congress turned against Trump it would matter. Maybe you could reach a tipping point there that would actually affect poll numbers. But would it do that, or would it just rededicate Trump's huge and horrendous base to turn out the Washington incumbents in favor of a whole new wave of Trumpist candidates?
Seriously, it really seems like their party is just too compromised to be salvageable. Really, when such a huge percentage of the American people are supporting Trump, ultimately the blame lies with them, Trump's supporters. I do not understand the appeal of that lying traitor, but a LOT of people now are devoted to him and it is wrecking America.
Really the only solution I can see is for Democrats to win big in elections, but that requires actual elections that are not rigged and for enough Democratic voters to actually show up to win, so.. we'll see if that happens. I am hopeful but it could go either way.
As for the Senate confirmation hearing for Kavanaugh, though, I am strongly opposed to him, but again, unless you can flip some Republicans, it doesn't matter what the centrist Democrats do in the final vote. I'd say try to get them to hold off on their votes until we know how all the Republicans are voting...