21st January 2018, 9:50 PM
True, it well might not make much of a difference either way. I thought that that 2013 shutdown would hurt the Republicans, but it didn't at all, they did great the next November. While this is closer to the election, while the Dems may have voted no they only did so because of Trump's actions and I think many people recognize that. Also it is great to see the Democrats actually fight for something, and that energizes the base. You need that though, because shutdowns increase cynicism about the government and both parties in general, which isn't great; I really wish that this debate was possible without a shutdown, because it is not a good thing (shutdowns do hurt, particularly the longer the last), but I guess it wasn't.
Dark Jaguar Wrote:Meanwhile we have Trump saying things like "They aren't going to send us their best." about immigrants. He STILL seems to think the governments of foreign countries round people up and shove them on boats to send our way, rather than individuals just deciding on their own to apply.Perhaps the top lesson from this shutdown is a reminder that Trump doesn't actually know anything, he just parrots whatever he is told, by the people he listens to. And sadly, right now he is listening to the ultra-conservative immigration extremists who want less legal immigration and no DACA.