A Black Falcon Wrote:Do you think a male candidate with Hillary's other flaws would also have lost? That's really the only question that matters here. I doubt that very much. Maybe... but I doubt it.
You have asserted, repeatedly, that a male candidate with none of her flaws would have done worse.
Quote:You don't have to agree with the republicans, but it is absolutely fatal to fail to understand them. Not the cartoonish caricature you argue with in your head. That one's easy to win a debate with. Understand this. They don't like being pandered to with disingenuous folksy talk. Bernie Sanders, and Elizabeth Warren if she ever decided to run, are genuine and it comes off in their speeches. That can win an election.This is exactly correct.
There were a lot of voters out there who would have voted for any other Democrat (male or female). There's no way Bernie Sanders would have lost the four key reliably blue states Hillary lost to Donald Trump.
If America can elect, and comfortably re-elect a black man as president, American history makes it very evident that gender would not stop a candidate who is charismatic and positive as Obama was. Hillary is the opposite of charismatic and her campaign was absolutely not positive or forward-thinking in its messaging to the voters. She lost because she was already unpopular and she is just not a good candidate for public office. People for whom gender is a big deal are not people who would have voted for anyone with a D next to their name anyway.
The Democrats need a vision and a message, as they had in 2008. "Republicans are bad and I'm not a Republican" is not a vision and it is a message that literally only worked when the Republican was Todd Akin. And when the party puts more effort into stealing votes from disaffected Republicans than it does cultivating votes from disaffected non-voters who have a clear ideological lean in your direction, it's a message that speaks of monumental blindness.
That's why the Dem establishment needs to go. They are too conservative to be viable in this environment. Not conservative in the ideological sense, but in the sense that they are rigid, deaf to criticism and entirely unwilling to adapt to reality as it changes around them.
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