8th December 2016, 7:00 AM
How... how would CHANGING THE LEADERSHIP change anything? Right, got it, so it really doesn't matter if Trump is president then. Listen to yourself! Also, how good a job did she do really? She had the party favor Hillary from the start, which didn't turn out well, and led a party-wide policy of "meeting them halfway" for far too long, which hasn't helped, and she led a party that lost to TRUMP! That election was practically GIFT WRAPPED for the democrats, and they couldn't muster enough love for their own candidate to win THAT. Say what you will about the system being gamed against the dems, but that was true back in the 2008 election and true in the 2012 election too. You can't use that as an excuse. The democratic party was led by someone who thought that Hillary was the candidate people would love enough to defeat Trump, and they were wrong. That's reality. Yes, Hillary does walk away with the popular vote, and yes, the electoral college hasn't been needed since the earliest days of our nation, but Obama STILL WON twice even with those problems in place. Hillary just wasn't charismatic enough to win where she needed to win. Maybe Bernie wouldn't have been either, but we'll never know now, and ultimately the biggest issue is they didn't see it going into the race even though her trustworthiness issues were staring them in the face the whole time.
How would changing who leads the party change how the party is run? That's what we're going with here? It would, if nothing else, at least show a commitment to change. As it stands, could you provide me even the slightest evidence the party is actually going to chance in any significant way? I could accept keeping the same leader if some plan for changing the course of the party was put into place, after all. That would be something, but this, no, this was nothing.
How would changing who leads the party change how the party is run? That's what we're going with here? It would, if nothing else, at least show a commitment to change. As it stands, could you provide me even the slightest evidence the party is actually going to chance in any significant way? I could accept keeping the same leader if some plan for changing the course of the party was put into place, after all. That would be something, but this, no, this was nothing.
"On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." ~ Charles Babbage (1791-1871)