24th June 2016, 5:02 PM
ABF, we don't need proof that Clinton has actually made some promises to the people giving her money. We would if we were going to try and indite her, but that's not the issue here.
The issue is one of conflicting interests. It's a matter of trust. Yes, she may not actually be doing anything for these groups giving her money, but I'm less inclined to trust someone taking money from these groups than I am someone who is not taking that money.
By now, you should be aware enough to realize money doesn't change hands like that for no reason. It's suspect, and worth doubting. Try applying that sort of blind trust in the face of suspicious activity to other authorities. Republicans are taking money from gun rights lobbyists. Are you going to tell me "sure, but there's no proof that they are basing their policies on those funds"? No, of course not. It's a conflict of interest. It's the same reason judges can't accept "gifts" from people who's cases they are or might preside over. Yes, you COULD say "this gift will have no effect on my ruling", but you know very well that's naive. If Clinton decides NOT to favor these major companies with policies they like, if she goes against them, she won't be getting their money in her second term election. She "owes" them, in a way Bernie does not. It doesn't matter that no concrete deal was made, the seeds have been sown.
Anyway, Bernie has come out and said he's voting for Clinton. He wasn't giving his resounding support for her, but rather saying basically "don't let Trump win". I suppose next you'll be saying you're mad at Bernie for not fawning over Clinton and singing her praises to the masses like he's supposed to.
Oh, and thank you for making it clear that there are conditions where you would reject the democrats. It is VERY important that you don't treat being a democrat as part of your own identity, at the very least. Trust me, when you attach yourself to a group, or rather the name of a group, as a fundamental aspect of your core identity, it makes it very hard to break away when that group goes bad (or is exposed to have always been bad).
The issue is one of conflicting interests. It's a matter of trust. Yes, she may not actually be doing anything for these groups giving her money, but I'm less inclined to trust someone taking money from these groups than I am someone who is not taking that money.
By now, you should be aware enough to realize money doesn't change hands like that for no reason. It's suspect, and worth doubting. Try applying that sort of blind trust in the face of suspicious activity to other authorities. Republicans are taking money from gun rights lobbyists. Are you going to tell me "sure, but there's no proof that they are basing their policies on those funds"? No, of course not. It's a conflict of interest. It's the same reason judges can't accept "gifts" from people who's cases they are or might preside over. Yes, you COULD say "this gift will have no effect on my ruling", but you know very well that's naive. If Clinton decides NOT to favor these major companies with policies they like, if she goes against them, she won't be getting their money in her second term election. She "owes" them, in a way Bernie does not. It doesn't matter that no concrete deal was made, the seeds have been sown.
Anyway, Bernie has come out and said he's voting for Clinton. He wasn't giving his resounding support for her, but rather saying basically "don't let Trump win". I suppose next you'll be saying you're mad at Bernie for not fawning over Clinton and singing her praises to the masses like he's supposed to.
Oh, and thank you for making it clear that there are conditions where you would reject the democrats. It is VERY important that you don't treat being a democrat as part of your own identity, at the very least. Trust me, when you attach yourself to a group, or rather the name of a group, as a fundamental aspect of your core identity, it makes it very hard to break away when that group goes bad (or is exposed to have always been bad).
"On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." ~ Charles Babbage (1791-1871)