21st July 2015, 10:39 PM
Dark Jaguar Wrote:That, in my opinion, puts the lie to the whole thing. Unions are free-market as applied to labor, aren't they? Why would groups that are so very in favor of corporations being able to do whatever they like suddenly opposed to workers basically making labor corporations?
Because they're a bunch of hypocritical control-freak douche bags. These douchebags are capable of legislating (or lobbying) such unequal treatment because there exists an organization that is allowed to initiate the use of force (govt). The government is an attractive career for these douchebags.
The exist of a government also provides a bribe-able and armed enforcer for non-government douchebags to use for their dirty work.
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Dark Jaguar Wrote:Taking care of "one's self" is barely a contribution at all. It's the absolute bare minimum, in that you aren't being a burden. Living in the woods as a survivalist accomplishes the same goal. Trying to point out how selfish interest actually benefits others is just a selfish post-hoc rationalization. So yes, I reject your claim.
Further, how DOES a homeless person take care of themselves? Explain the actual logistics. The actual steps.
Dark Jaguar Wrote:Taking care of "one's self" is barely a contribution at all. It's the absolute bare minimum, in that you aren't being a burden. Living in the woods as a survivalist accomplishes the same goal. Trying to point out how selfish interest actually benefits others is just a selfish post-hoc rationalization. So yes, I reject your claim.
Further, how DOES a homeless person take care of themselves? Explain the actual logistics. The actual steps.
Well, if no one was a burden, there'd be no need to force anyone to subsidize others. Right?
Yes, living in the woods can be self-sustaining.
Selfish interests do benefit others via transactions. Recently I selfishly wanted a hardtop for my car, and the seller wanted cash for his personal use.
I may selfishly want something unreasonable, but who's gonna agree to accommodate my unreasonable terms?
Homelessness is not relevant. Any person that takes care of themselves without stealing or receiving violently-enforced re-distributions is equally self-sustaining. There are no "steps," just the act of earning a living.
How materially one wants to live is no one's concern: home or no home, phone or no phone, clean or dirty. What type of peaceful work one wants to do is no one's concern: odd cash jobs, salaried employment, begging, performing
Perhaps you should tell me how a homeless person is not able to take of theirself?