12th November 2016, 8:20 PM
Dark Jaguar Wrote:I think I don't want you "teaching" me any more about this. I feel like I'm worse off now than before.That's how the internet is, isn't it... we learn things we wish we didn't know. I know I sure have, many times... makes you wonder once in a while if this whole internet thing was worth it. :p (It is, but it's got big problems too.)
Quote:At any rate, I wasn't joking about the FBI. When I found out that "CP" was code for "child pornography" in order to hide activity, it sickened me. It wasn't much of a stretch to assume that above cutesy term was a similar way of "hiding" stuff.Hah... kind of maybe? I follow anime less now than I did in past years, but I still watch some at least so yeah.
I really honestly couldn't care less which group started using the term first, and I don't care if they have two gender specific terms. However, it DOES disturb me that so many English speaking fans took it upon themselves to FIND OUT all these Japanese terms and make it their own. That actually makes it WORSE! Why did they do that?! Why would they WANT to do that? One thing's for sure, now whenever I see someone use some weird Japanese term online, I gotta just make sure to ask myself if I REALLY want to know what that term means. You're mired in it ABF, you should find this stranger than you do. You're the frog in the slow to boil pot of water.
As for terms though, what's so weird about learning Japanese anime terminology? Doesn't it makes sense that fans of the genre would try to find out more about it, and since all anime is Japanese that means learning Japanese terms for stuff. Others resist that, but those who do probably think of themselves as more serious anime fans since they're getting closer to the source material... though others use mocking terms for Westerners who get too hardcore into their adoration for otaku Japan, so there's a back and forth there. It's a bit like the old argument between people who watch anime subbed, and people who watch it dubbed. (I prefer subbed, myself, but have watched dubbed stuff too of course.)
Quote:Yes, I am going to call them all pedophiles. You may have a point about fake depictions being better than actual photos (though what's with your distinction between "2D" and "3D", I really don't think an Oculus Rift is going to make much difference here),Sorry, I was using more anime terminology there. "2d" is anime -- drawings, animation, videogames, what have you. "3d" is the real world. Japan has one of the worlds' lowest birthrates now, and while there are many reasons for that, the otakus who have only 2d "relationships" and not real ones are something that has been written about; there have been articles about that and such, and it's a definite thing.
Quote:but at the end of the day, we've got a planet full of 7 billion people. I can afford to be just picky enough in who I associate with to decide I'd rather not have anything to do with anyone who is sexually attracted to children, whether they can limit it to fictional depictions or not. There's just not room in my life for such people.I'd reserve the term for people who have a real-world interest in such things and not only digital ones, myself, because drawings or videogames are not real. Still, as for wanting to stay away from both types, sure.
Quote:If what you say is true, and most of the anime made today is incredibly niche in Japan as well, pandering to a bunch of shut ins, that's not something they can sustain. If they're really too afraid to offend those shutins for things that frankly they should be called out on, well, that's no good. I think I see now why I avoid so much of the anime these days. I'll take the super hero fighting stuff any day of the week over these sad excuses for shows.Is it sustainable? Well, it is for now, but the whole system could break down, yes. It all depends on how many otakus there are in the future, and whether the economics of selling small numbers of stupid-overpriced anime continues to make sense. Right now, there are more anime series being made each year than ever, but most focus on otaku niches and abandon any attempt at mass-market appeal. The general concept of anime as an art style is quite popular, and there are lots of Chinese and Korean drawn manga analogs (called "manhwa" in Korea and "manhua" in China), but yes, the otaku-centric TV anime field certainly could collapse. (Japan's declining population sure won't help it, I think...)