Obama pissis off america.... Again

[etoven]

Apparently, Obama ruffled more than a few feathers today when he gave his Nobel piece prize acceptance speech. The entire speech was about the need for valiance, and the need to continue the war to completion. Both of his now fraudulent stance on the issues during his election campaign is what earned him the prize in the first place. I just have just to say, in the following progression....

[Weltall]

Actually, I thought that, for Obama, it was actually a pretty good speech. Much better than that West Point disaster he had last week.

[Geno]

C'mon, give him some credit, if nothing else, giving pretty speeches is Obama's forté. :)

But seriously, Obama isn't even making a big deal out of his victory and has even stated that he doesn't deserve it. He was a little hastily rewarded as he hasn't done much for world peace besides giving a few flowery speeches.

But yeah, it was a good speech, especially considering the troubling paradox that he's escalating a war while accepting a peace prize.

[Weltall]

Obama sounds like a robot behind a podium. Forget entirely what he's saying; I can't stand to listen to his voice. It's just as annoying as Palin's "gosh well okey now" drawling in an entirely different way. The only thing he's good at is using the word "unprecedented" at unprecedented levels.

[Geno]

Yeah, I do admit that Obama's speeches sound more... let's say manufactured than Bush's (or even the speeches Obama gave while campaigning). When Bush had to give a heartfelt speech, while his vocabulary and pronunciation were inferior to Obama's, it felt a little more sincere (emphasis on "felt" as we all know the president is going to give a sentimental speech to make us feel better anytime tragedy occurs whether he feels anything or not). Palin is just grating to listen to.

Well... we certainly went off on a tangent there. :)

[Fittisize]

Obama sounds like a robot behind a podium. Forget entirely what he's saying; I can't stand to listen to his voice. It's just as annoying as Palin's "gosh well okey now" drawling in an entirely different way. The only thing he's good at is using the word "unprecedented" at unprecedented levels.

Some folks from the English department at my school analyzed a few of Obama's speeches and they found that, to a pretty remarkable extent, he speaks consistently in iambic pentameter.

[Dark Jaguar]

I much prefer "robot" to "moron". End of line.

[alien space marine]

The prize committee really have devalued whatever worth the award once had, Unless they consult psychics with precognition when picking candidates for the prize Awarding them for "future acts of altruism".

[Geno]

I much prefer "robot" to "moron". End of line.

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[Weltall]

I much prefer "robot" to "moron". End of line.

Our current president proves that one man can be many (i.e., both of these) things.

Honestly, he's fucking up almost everything in similar ways to how Bush fucked things up. Except for health care, that's one he's fucking up in a rather different way.

Save for health care, he's not really doing anything different, and he still blames everything on Bush. Yeah, Bush ended up being a screw-up, but Obama's a quarter of the way through what seems increasingly likely to be his only term. He's gotten a free ride by Blaming everything on Bush, but he can't get away with it forever. It becomes his problem eventually.

[A Black Falcon]

Did you read my last post, Weltall? You honestly think that it's a good thing that healthcare companies answer to Wall Street, not to what their patients need?

Did you hear how recently one large healthcare company announced that they were going to be dropping 650,000 people from their rolls not because they did anything wrong or because the company was losing money, it actually made a big profit last year. Instead, it was because their profits weren't high enough to satisfy Wall Street expectations, so the best way to up profits was to cut people.

Or how about all the people who get paid to, every day, find ways to drop peoples' policies as soon as they actually get sick and need them?

These kinds of disgraces are the kinds of things that should never, ever happen. Yet if Republicans get their way, they will continue to happen into the indefinite future. And that's why reform is so important... and why I think the public option is best, public companies have utterly failed.


As for costs, the Senate bill as it is might not do so great, no. That's because of how almost completely crippled the public option, which is the only real way of getting the private companies to put any effort into controlling costs; as it is, they benefit from out-of-control costs, so they have no interest in doing so. Only public competition might, and I do mean might, get them to change.

[Geno]

^Another fine example of what I like to call laissez unfaire economics.

[Weltall]

I believe I've made plain my opinion that the health care system's status quo is infeasible, and I definitely do not agree with the Republicans who believe the current system works. Everyone should have access to quality health care without the risk of it crippling you financially for life.

My major caveat is that I don't really think that turning it over to the federal government will improve matters a whole lot. The proponents of the current bill seem interested in changing ownership of the concept and widening its reach, focusing on the symptoms as opposed to the root causes.

It's why I wonder if it might work better on the state level as opposed to the federal level, with a level of oversight that is closer to home and better tailored to its citizens, and whatever tax increases I have to bear will at least stay nearby and be proportionate. Let Californians pay more for living in California, and let them foot the bill for their illegal aliens if they want to extend coverage to them.