4th April 2003, 4:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by A Black Falcon
No I'm not. I just see no reason to go find proof of my own when Sacred Jellybean and big guy provided more than enough.
They did not offer the proof both Dark Jaguar and I demanded of you. Go read that first page again. You claim that there is scientific proof that homosexuality is genetic, not one of you proved that at all. Especially you, at least they tried.
Quote:It isn't fair to let rich people pay small amounts of tax because they are rich. The fact that they are rich means they have more money... more money to give in taxes. Poor people do not have that money... it just isn't fair to them to expect them to give anywhere near the same amount of money in taxes... and it isn't fair to the rest of us to let rich people off so easily...You are so dense it makes me want to scream. I'm not doing the math for you again, the last time I did it showed that under a flat tax rich people paid a decisively higher percentage of federal tax, but fairness isn't what you want. You want advantages for the poor, which is fine in theory, but all it does is tell them that there is no reason to try and better yourself because you're getting rewarded for remaining poor. How does THAT help the poor? In the short term? Maybe. In the long run? Definitely not. And, in the process, you hurt those who DO show incentive, which only makes the poor want to stay poor even more.
Quote:The point was that there is a second, probably heterosexual person who gives half the genetic material...And that will magically negate any gay gene somehow? Keep going, professor, this is getting hilarious :)
Quote:I am talking about now, not the past. And now Democrats are (or almost all of them anyway) not racist... while plenty of republicans are. I very, very much doubt that there aren't a whole lot of Republican legislators who behind closed doors completely agreed with Lott...
The biggest, most important factor is still very liberal, and that's affirmative action, the reverse of Jim Crow.
Quote:As I said before, almost no one can stop it... and anyone who could wasn't genetically homosexual in the first place. There aren't many people like that out there.No one is genetically homosexual. The idea is preposterous.
Quote:You keep saying I'm not reflecting your opinions... but to me it sure seems like I am after I read your posts. "I don't favor persecution! I just think that persecution is perfectly fine!"
I'm not going to bother again. I've said what I mean, and you're obviously not reading it.
Quote:You keep calling it a choice. It makes absolutely no sense at all... I think that there has been plenty of proof to show that it is not from our side of the argument. The fact that you refuse to acknowledge that shows your refusal to consider that the other side could even begin to have any valid points.
I refuse to consider it because it is scientifically invalid, and I've offered lots of proof stating just how invalid it is, the unlikelihood and near impossibility of it. You all have offered no proof at all. Nothing. Opinions? Yeah. Proof? Certainly not. But I will.
http://www.queerbychoice.com/index.html
This is a site, run by gay people, debunking the myth that genetics are the cause of their sexual preference. Within you'll find dozens of articles, some scientific, some not, that address the topic. Doing a search for "gay gene" will display quite a number of articles addressing this topic as well, and the more recent ones definitely do not favor the biology slant. Over 90% of the human genome has been mapped, and no gay gene has been found yet. It had been thought there was one, but now it appears that it is in fact not.
Quote:Drug users? How many criminal groups will you compare homosexuals to? Its very insulting... Drug users can go into rehab and try to solve their problems... homosexuals can pretend to surpress their feelings, but they can't do it fully... you can't control biology that fully...
Are you inferring all drug users are criminal? There are many, many drugs that are completely legal and are capable of causing severe addictions, such as alcohol. Don't be so dense.
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