3rd April 2003, 3:05 PM
The fact that you honestly believe that you have refuted anything proves how deluded you are... I read your post here and about all I think is "how in the world can a sane person actually believe that? Its ridiculous!"...
Ah, I forgot that because you think its unnatural that that makes it so... of course! I mean... why let facts stand in your way? You sure don't let them very much... its just stupid to say "because I don't like it it can't be true". If you can't see that, you are incredibly dense...
As for bisexuality, I fail to see how that proves or disproves anything other than that those people might have that gene (or genes, I don't know...) somehow activated for both genders... why that is out of the question is beyond me...
Of course the act itsself is choice. But um, who you like isn't... as we've said a dozen times (and you will ignore a dozen more if we say it that many) is that it ISN'T! Homosexuals DO NOT SEE THE OTHER GENDER AS ATTRACTIVE IN THE SAME WAY HETEROSEXUALS DO! Its just a basic fact that is NOT explainable by just mental state! I mean... if homosexuals were attracted to the other gender that way they'd be bisexual, not homosexual... it doesn't work all ways. They cannot choose which they want to be... anyone (such as "ex-gay" people "converted" by christian groups) were either in the relatively small 'only in their mind' group or are fooling themselves, trying to make it true... while their biology cannot be changed by something like mental state...
How would you know? I bet that in the past lots and lots of homosexuals have not known what they were and had unhappy/loveless (on their end anyway) marriages that produced children... I bet that for most of human history it was hardly rare, especially given how most people didn't know homosexuality existed... or if they did knew it was repressed...
Oh, and I tried to avoid this argument before it started because I remembered that we had the same one a few months ago and that the result was the same... Weltall ignored everything I said while strangely saying that I wasn't doing anything to prove my points... just like now. It's really pointless to argue this with people as set in their hate as Weltall and N_A here.
Ah, I forgot that because you think its unnatural that that makes it so... of course! I mean... why let facts stand in your way? You sure don't let them very much... its just stupid to say "because I don't like it it can't be true". If you can't see that, you are incredibly dense...
As for bisexuality, I fail to see how that proves or disproves anything other than that those people might have that gene (or genes, I don't know...) somehow activated for both genders... why that is out of the question is beyond me...
Of course the act itsself is choice. But um, who you like isn't... as we've said a dozen times (and you will ignore a dozen more if we say it that many) is that it ISN'T! Homosexuals DO NOT SEE THE OTHER GENDER AS ATTRACTIVE IN THE SAME WAY HETEROSEXUALS DO! Its just a basic fact that is NOT explainable by just mental state! I mean... if homosexuals were attracted to the other gender that way they'd be bisexual, not homosexual... it doesn't work all ways. They cannot choose which they want to be... anyone (such as "ex-gay" people "converted" by christian groups) were either in the relatively small 'only in their mind' group or are fooling themselves, trying to make it true... while their biology cannot be changed by something like mental state...
Quote:That's really unlikely, because such a gene, as I stated numerous times, could not last very long, as homosexuals don't reproduce very often.
How would you know? I bet that in the past lots and lots of homosexuals have not known what they were and had unhappy/loveless (on their end anyway) marriages that produced children... I bet that for most of human history it was hardly rare, especially given how most people didn't know homosexuality existed... or if they did knew it was repressed...
Oh, and I tried to avoid this argument before it started because I remembered that we had the same one a few months ago and that the result was the same... Weltall ignored everything I said while strangely saying that I wasn't doing anything to prove my points... just like now. It's really pointless to argue this with people as set in their hate as Weltall and N_A here.